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September 18, 2020
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Help! How to make transition fade even color when an item is cropped on white background

  • September 18, 2020
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Hi,

 

I'm trying to transition a cropped item on a white background to another clip.  Every time I do it, you can clearly see the cropped area. When you view the clip it's matching and looks like it's not cropped.  But the moment you transition you see the cropped and background transition differently. 

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Correct answer Christian.Z

This is normal behavior. Cropping does not "cancel" the fact that your first clip has a background, even if this background is white. For this to work, your clip had to be alpha channel, or in case of an image should have a transparent background.

 

However, an easy workaround is to change the opacity mode of the clip to "Darken"

11 replies

Community Expert
September 22, 2020

Did you try to right click on that image from the Project Panel,

then click on Modify - Interpret Footage and choose Conform Alpha to Premultiplied?

Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Are all the 'whites' your using all the same level? Could it be that some are coming out of clipping earlier than others during the fade. Looking at the luma scope might give you a clue. 

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Richard,

 

I'm not sure how to fix that, since when I adjust the level the color looks the same in the transition frame.  but here is the Luma scope maybe you can tell me what I can do. Thanks!

 

Participating Frequently
September 20, 2020

Once I rendered it in aftereffects using RGB+Alpha the luma scopes changed and it works now.  Wish it could just have been done in Premiere all at once tho.  Thanks.  Here is a screenshot:

 

MyerPj
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

First, you are speaking of a 'mask' and not a crop I take it - due to the shape of the mask/crop.

I couldn't get it to work using 'Darken'

 

I did get it to work I believe like so.

Nest the clip with the mask and put in a white background on it in the nest.

Then it should work. here it is with the problem:

And without:

And the nested sequence:

 

MyerPj
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Suddenly I can't edit my posts... this is the picture I meant for the Nest:

The WhiteBackground.png is the screenshot of your product with the mask

 

Christian.Z
Community Expert
Christian.ZCommunity ExpertCorrect answer
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

This is normal behavior. Cropping does not "cancel" the fact that your first clip has a background, even if this background is white. For this to work, your clip had to be alpha channel, or in case of an image should have a transparent background.

 

However, an easy workaround is to change the opacity mode of the clip to "Darken"

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Christian,

 

I didn't get it to work by using Darken as the blended model.  Let me clarify how I did my shot.  I used the "crop" effects and I masked it. Then I inverted and cropped on of side 100%.  I had tried to just use the Opacity and mask it and it didn't work either.  Btw the next clip is a black background. So you can see the mask outline clearly below.  I just want to fade the first clip that has a white background smoothly/evenly to the black background.

 

Peru Bob
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Try keyfaming opacity instead of using the cross dissolve transition.

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Peru,

 

i tried keying the opacity as well. No luck. 

Community Expert
September 19, 2020

please check your renderer from project settings:

are you on GPU acceleration or software only? try to switch

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Carlos,

 

I switch it to GPU acceleration and software only.  Still doesn't fix it. 

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Why is the background cropped. Does it not need to fill the entire frame?

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Nest the two images then apply transition.

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Ann,

 

I tried nesting it.  It still doesn't work.  I also just render out the nest sequence and imported that clip and it will still show the cropped area. 

Peru Bob
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 19, 2020

Try unchecking Composite in linear color in the sequence settings.

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Peru,

 

I tried the unchecking linear.  It still doesn't fix it.  You can see the crop area still.  Here is the screen shot:

 

Peru Bob
Community Expert
Community Expert
September 18, 2020

Try pressing enter to render the timeline and turn the red bar above the timeline to green.

Participating Frequently
September 19, 2020

Hi Peru,

 

I did that.  I also exporting it.  I tried nesting it. And you can clearly see the outline of the crop area still.  Here is the render screen shot: 

 

Participating Frequently
September 18, 2020