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How to export file as ProRes (or best broadcast option) from PremierePro on PC w/ win 7

Community Beginner ,
Sep 10, 2013 Sep 10, 2013

I am trying to submit a PSA to a local network and they want a digital download preferably as ProRes. I have not been able to find that codec as an option and see that it may only be available on a Mac. Time and money are both issues and I just want to get this done. If ProRes is not an option with Premiere Pro or Media Encoder, then what is the next best quicktime/mov option for broadcast? I don't know the difference between the listed option in MediaEncoder.

Any mindshare with steps to take and options would be much appreciated. Thanks for reading this.

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Adobe Employee , Sep 11, 2013 Sep 11, 2013

Hi keaproductions,

If you must output ProRes from Windows, check out Telestream Episode: http://www.telestream.net/episode/features.htm

Thanks,

Kevin

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People's Champ ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

CC7 can encode DNxHD in an MXF wrapper, earlier versions can't.

(No need to keep secrets)

What's New in Adobe Media Encoder CC

Support for Avid DNxHD assets

http://helpx.adobe.com/media-encoder/using/whats-new-media-encoder.html#id_38227

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

.....earlier versions of PPro CAN edit DNxHD files that are in the "Quicktime" wrapper....which have the.MOV file extension. Although that codec can be downloaded from Avid for free....it has some drawbacks. Being Quicktime...it triggers a 32bit process that does not allow PPro to operate entirely in its native 64bit environment. However, these DNxHD files DO edit MUCH more smoothly than the native AVCHD,or similar, highly compressed files from the camera.

.....the BEST solution is to have PPro CCloud, which NOW can edit ,or, export DNxHD in the .MXF wrapper, which is entirely 64 bit !!! Simply download from Avid the free .MXF codec onto your PC....then it will show up as an export codec within PPro CCloud......

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People's Champ ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

.....the BEST solution is to have PPro CCloud, which NOW can edit ,or, export DNxHD in the .MXF wrapper, which is entirely 64 bit !!! Simply download from Avid the free .MXF codec onto your PC....then it will show up as an export codec within PPro CCloud......

An excellent set of new features in CC7 that require

maintaining a subscription to Creative Cloud.

Whether that is the BEST solution depends on the user.

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

....i made a mistake......Adobe Media Encoder CCloud ALREADY HAS the necessary DNxHD .MXF 64 bit codecs installed.....along with presets.....no need to go to Avid to download anything......that was the OLD way !!!

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People's Champ ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

Roger that!

From the link in Post 20:

"Adobe Media Encoder supports the import and export of

Avid DNxHD assets without having to install additional codecs."

http://helpx.adobe.com/media-encoder/using/whats-new-media-encoder.html#id_38227

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

Thanks. I didn't see it under broadcast options but I'll look again. I'm using the cloud so it should be the most recent, I would hope.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

I'm using the cloud so I believe CS6. Thanks.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

A Creative Cloud subscription means you're using the CC version, which includes DNxHD export as per reply #25.

(there is no such thing as "CC7").

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

Thanks, Dave and Joe. So I updated all of my downloads including Media Encoder CS6 and still don't see that combo. A lot of H.264 underbroadcast but no "DNxHD" even after reading the info at the link about updates to media encoder. With MXF with OP1 had SD option and XDCAMHD... I feel like an idiot, but clearly I'm still missing something. I'm looking under the preset formats as the adobe link said it would be available but apparently not even after doing an update.

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Enthusiast ,
Sep 12, 2013 Sep 12, 2013

....you seem to be confused as to which version you are using......you keep saying "CS 6"...that is NOT the Creative Cloud version.  Only the CCloud version supports the DNxHD in the MXF wrapper.....not CS6......I believe.

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New Here ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

Unfortunately all those (including myself) that brought ‘Premiere CS6’ have been royally shafted by Adobe with their complete abandonment of the software and it seems they are only updating ‘Premiere CC’.

All of these features should have been in CS6 but instead were only included in creative cloud leaving all those who don’t want subscription base software feeling screwed over after paying thousands of dollars for CS6, it seems even the bug fixes are only going to the cloud service software.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

it seems even the bug fixes are only going to the cloud service software.

That's not correct.  CS6 recently saw both the 6.0.4 and 6.0.5 updates to fix some bugs.  You just won't get new features on the old version, and that's SOP for any company.

You want new features, you buy the new version.

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People's Champ ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

..it seems even the bug fixes are only going to the cloud service software.

To expand on Mr. Jim's post...

Adobe Creative Suite 6 FAQ

http://www.adobe.com/products/cs6/faq.html

Under: "Upgrade eligibility, pricing, and purchasing options"

"Adobe will continue to make Creative Suite 6 available as a perpetual

software license, and will provide bug fixes and security updates

as necessary. All of the CS6 suite editions and individual products

continue to be available for purchase by Electronic Software Delivery

(ESD) on Adobe.com as well as through select retailers.

Volume licensing for these products is also available

through Adobe Authorized Resellers worldwide."

"We plan to sell Creative Suite 6 for use

on supported platforms indefinitely."

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People's Champ ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

BigglesKDH wrote:

...shafted by Adobe with their complete abandonment of the software and it seems they are only updating ‘Premiere CC’.

There is also a bug fixed release of After Effects CS6 in the works:

BTW, a new After Effects CS6 update is coming soon

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5596038#5596038

(post 223)

"We should have this out in September."

-Todd Kopriva

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

I do seem to be confused as I subscribe and pay for creative cloud but the version still says CS6.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

I see that there are separate files to download. That was misleading. When I first signed up I just search for the programs I wanted and downloaded. It might have been better for Adobe to note that since I was a Creative Cloud subscriber that the CC version was the best match or to list both options with the differences outlined.

I feel like a dork that I was talking about apples and looking at oranges. Smile. So I was using CS6 but now I'm downloading CC. So I'll see if that solves it with the options that everyone so graciously suggested. Thanks to you all. Update to come.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

So I downloaded and have all the updates so most recent version of Creative Cloud for Premiere Pro and Media Encoder. I see all the DNxHD MXF options and there are several. I tried 220 and 220x both 1080 and 29.97 and got this error:

"VLC does not support the audio or video format "undf". Unfortunately there is no way for you to fix this."

Why is this more complicated than it should be? I just want to export the media as something close to prores for broadcast.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

That export will do the job.  There just aren't many consumer media players that can handle it.

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LEGEND ,
Sep 17, 2013 Sep 17, 2013

Why is this more complicated than it should be? I just want to export the media as something close to prores for broadcast.

After all this.going round in circles..have you actually asked the broadcaster what else they will accept?

eg a simple and basic H264 file. 

There is no technical reason why this universal format cant be used in PBS TV.  THey are not mastering from it.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 30, 2013 Sep 30, 2013

Thank you to everyone for your mindshare and brainstorming. Unfortunately after all that experimentation and dealing with CC slowing down my computer to try the latest version of Premiere Pro, the local station changed their minds about airing the PSA. Disappointing. And they never told me an alternative that they would find acceptable in the future. Odd.

I appreciate the time you all took to respond to my inquiry. Thanks again!

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

I must be confused because when I check the version of Premiere Pro that I downloaded it says CS6 but I subscribe to creative cloud and pay monthly... So that is why I don't understand why my version is not 7 and why I don't see DNxHD as an option. Is it because I downloaded it? I thought that is what you're suppose to do...?

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People's Champ ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

Dave Merchant wrote:

(there is no such thing as "CC7").

I got the term 'CC7' from Todd Kopriva.

I guess it is shorthand (without PrPro and the parentheses).

"The 'CC' part of the name is a branding decision; it's somewhat

different than a real version number. You'll note that we always

use phrasing like "After Effects CC (12.0)", "Premiere Pro CC (7.0)",

and so on, just like we always have done with CS6 and before:

"After Effects CS6 (11.0.2)", "Premiere Pro CS5 (5.0.4)".

The version number in all of these cases is the part in parentheses."

Post 920. Todd Kopriva

http://forums.adobe.com/message/5369946#5369946

¯\(°_o)/¯

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Community Expert ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

A Creative Cloud subscription means you're using the CC version, which includes DNxHD export as per reply #25.

Just to clarify, having a CC subscription means you may run the CC version or any earlier version that is covered. So a CC subscriber can run CS6 suite - and some do. Most/almost all CC subscribers run CC, with the notable exception of needing Encore CS6.

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Community Beginner ,
Sep 13, 2013 Sep 13, 2013

How do you run creative clound version downloading CS6? Perhaps the problem is that I did a download but shouldn't have or downloaded the wrong version. I just started my subscription in April. And did the all the updates but my version still says CS6. Is there something different that I should have done to use the cloud version?

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Dec 10, 2013 Dec 10, 2013
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Encore CS6 won't import DNxHD MXF op1a files exported from Premiere Pro CC 7.1 as it says it is missing the required codec. I had tried this because files exported as H264 Blu-ray from CC 7.1 also won't import. MPEG2 is not an option because of movie length.

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