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HUGE performance and lag issues with Premiere 2022

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February 16, 2022
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Please tell me I'm not alone in that, recently, Premiere Pro 2022 has been riddled with massive lag spikes, timeline studder, delays, crashes, and general performance related bugs and issues when performing even the most basic tasks and scrubbing through media it should not otherwise have any issue with.

Since updating, I have been plagued with HUGE timeline studder and just general laggy-ness that makes Premiere nearly unusable as a commercial film editor and is significantly interrupting and delaying my workflow to the point I've had to consider migrating to Avid or Davinci temporarily for client projects. HUGE disappointment and need these issues fixed immediately. This is especially disappointing considering I'm on a brand new setup.

System: Mac Pro (2019), 3.2 Ghz 16-Core Intel Xeon W, 96GB Mhz 2933 DDR4, AMD Radeon Pro W6800x 32GB + Apple ProRes Afterburner Card

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AMAX

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A good workaround is to revert back to older Premiere. The new one has issues! unusable!

that kind of worked for me for now untill i find a better editing software.

Itam

Known Participant

Not sure if this has already been posted, but this lag problem is alread a topic of discussion for a while. https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/premiere-pro-2023-slow-and-sluggish-compared-to-2021/td-p/13369342
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/premiere-pro-23-1-performance-issues-after-upgrading-windows-and-nvidia/td-p/13418524
https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/version-23-1-much-slower-after-update-macos-ventura-and-m1/m-p/13496289#M449753

WarriorKnot

Participating Frequently

Thanks for the links Itam,

This post is older than those and after reading through them has more solutions that work.

The change of audio hardware preference to none from default none worked for me.

Itam

Known Participant

Hi @WarriorKnot, I appreciate your respons, but to me those are not solutions, but workarounds. I am using an audio interface, so I can not even select the option you are mentioning. Also I don't want to select that option, because I often need to record voice-overs in Premiere. So I can imagine that I can not do that when there is no audio input selected. This problem just needs to be fixed instead of that we are looking for workarounds for things that should just work.

whcressall

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Wrong thread.

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Adam24246216u1nb

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I have a fully cracked out Mac Studio and my timelines behave like absolute trash.

If I copy and paste everything in a new sequence it plays back like butter. This is an Adobe issue, not hardware.

It's painfully sad that they don't take the time to invest in a solid community response team to ensure their customers actually get feedback on their issues.

This thread started in February of 22 and an Adobe employee got back January of 23, what a farce.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

@Adam24246216u1nb

Being that your on Mac, have you tried using Apple's codec for video editing?

caroline_edits

Community Manager

If the performance issues are mainly happening during playback, we have a video here with some potential improvements! If none of these work, try going to Preferences > Audio Hardware and set the default input to "None."

If that doesn't work and you haven't tried proxies yet, those are worth a try. Here's a 10-minute video explaining what a proxy is and how to use them in a project. And a video on making proxies for vertical video.

Let us know if any of the suggestions in this thread have helped you!

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ElCuso12

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Nothing has worked. My Mac is built out with everything needed. I've done all the suggestions provided by you and others here. Every software program I have works perfectly. I haven't done anything in Premiere or with my camera settings to change anything. Something happened in Adobe and I can't operate in my timeline. Playback in the window is just fine. It's navigating in the timeline. Cutting, moving, etc. Basic editing. It's a nightmare. I've been dealing for a couple months and it is impacting my business to the point I am trying out other editing systems and canceling my Adobe membership, and I'll be suggesting others do the same, including the 200k people that follow me on social media. I'm exhausted with this.

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footagehead123

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I've been having the same issue - although this just popped up now on a new project. I did however discover one thing that seems to be helping for now.

First, as editors, it's industry standard that if you're in the middle of a project, it's best to abstain from updating your OS or application version. If you can help it. Sometimes you can't, but you take the risk of issues popping up.

With that said, I've done everything in the gamebook - trash prefs, trash cache, uninstall/reinstall app, set input audio hardware to no input, etc etc. Some helped for a bit, but the issue keeps coming back.

Last several projects I was on it worked pretty smooth (v22 and v23). I just started a new project 3 days ago on the just updated PP 23.1.0. Lag right off the bat. However, I use a project folder template that I duplicate for every job. It had a PPro project file template from v22 I think. So when I open it, PPro prompted me to upgrade the project file to v23, which I just let it do. This is when I started noticing the lag issue creeping back again. So after trashing prefs and cache, I started a whole new project file from v23, not converting from v22. I imported the previous project file and reorganized. The performance seems to be markedly better, maybe not perfect, but so far I've been able to work.

Maybe this may help some people?

I will note that I almost always tc proxies so I'm working with ProRes Proxy files at 1920x1080. Only one multicam sequence of a 2 shot interview. No biggie. I have a fast computer, I just finished a feature film on this setup (v22) with no issues of lag.

Mac Pro 2019

Mac OS Monterey 12.6.2

3.3 GHz 12 Core Intel Xeon W

32 GB RAM

AMD Radeon Pro W5700X 16GB

Afterburner Card

Promise Pegasus 32 8 Bay RAID 5 (900MB Write/900MB Read) (50% used)

Cache on a fast internal SSD

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ElCuso12

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I am having similar issues. I've read through all the responses and fixes but I'm not having any luck. I'm also not a super technical person when it comes to editing. I'm a comedian and I edit my own videos, but I learned on Premiere so I don't want to change if I don't have to! Everything works great, except in my timeline. My workflow is like this: I record 3 different "characters" on a green screen, then I create a timeline for each character's performance, with their own background removed with the Ultra Key function. I then cut pieces from each timeline and copy them onto my main timeline where I am assemble the main video. It doesn't seem to like when I do this. It used to be fine, as this is how I've been doing it for months. But the past month has been different. The cursor lags, everything I do in the timelines takes forever, and it's killing me!

Here's an example of my videos so you see the end product. https://youtu.be/7rIop_nhNf0 And I've attached a screenshot so you can see my different timelines. Any help would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

@ElCuso12

Have you tried editing ProRes source in Sequences with the Video Preview Settings set to Custom QuickTime ProRes?

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ElCuso12

Participating Frequently

I will give that a try. Thank you!

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bkmvl

Participating Frequently

I just started working on a very simple project, just one video and a layer, footage is in 4k around 5 minutes long recorded in H.264 and playing the video outside Ppro it runs fine but in Premiere i see my cpu's hit 70-90% load from just playback and reading from disc at 20+ mb per second, the video is barely playing back more like 1fps if that.

My rig is running 2x Xeon 2640-v4 2.4ghz 10 core cpu's Windows 10, 128 gig ram and a PNY P5000 16 gig quadro card, with the driver just released(526.67), so to be fair to Premiere that driver could be the culprit, considering the project is very basic it should not struggle with the rather nice rig i run.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

Low bit rate delivery video formats that are heavily compressed between the frames are supposed to play back perfectly smooth on most devices that support the format.

For video editing, it's extremely preferable to have high bit rate formats that are minimally comprssed within the frame but never between the frames.

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jojobean13

Participant

Yes... I have always had issues with Premiere pro w/ playback. I specifically bought a Asus ProArt w/ 64 GB of ram, and adjusted my settings so that Adobe applications can use 32 GB of ram while I am in the applications... and this did not resolve the issue. Unfortunately I am going to have to give in and switch to Resolve. I can't keep editing at this pace any longer.

Warren Heaton

Community Expert

Have you used a "Smart Rendering" CODEC? In Resolve, this is called "Optimized Media Format".

Here are some free online resources for making sure you are following best practices in Premiere Pro:

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default9ytzb7vmpw4l

Known Participant

Wow. I just read Warren's comment, and your post ... and well, I can't even see how you get 'there'.

Not one word of his post says you or anyone should give Adobe money. He simply lays out how it is useful for many users to do so. There's not even an implication there that any or all other users should do the same.

As to points 2 & 3, I can't see anything there that goes "there" either.

What, do you insist that everone else on the planet must share and validate your experience? Or, if they have a different experience, that they can't share that experience?

Sharing differences says nothing critical about those differences, it just notes that they exist.

Personally, I never assume anyone will ever share my experience in even most details, let alone all. It's one of the fascinations of Life.

As I've noted, I've got friends who LOVE working in Resolve ... more power to them! I'd never think of telling them that because they love working in it, they are somehow negating my dislike of doing so. We're different people, for cryin' out loud.

They're as welcome to their feelings, impressions, and opinions as I am to mine. Sharing those different opinions politely ... that is professional courtesy.

And yes, one can very politely say the experience for them in working in one app is rubbish. Cool. But requiring others to validate your experience seems rather self-absorbed to me.

From many discussions, I know both Warren & I do vastly different workflows. With different interests. And if either of us felt another app was better suited for our client needs at this time we'd be 'there'. Without expecting nor needing validation for doing so from anyone. Let alone a massive company like Adobe.

Or needing answers for why Adobe or whatever "failed" us. Every human and group is entitled to make their own decisions. If we don't like that decision, we can all do whatever we want to replace that interaction.

Freedom of choice being a Very Good Thing.

Neil

I'm not asking others to validate my issues. I just want others to stop throwing wrenches into my requests.

When you say "I'm not having that issue", and go into a long explanation as to why I could be wrong, It minimizes the issue I am having. Maybe youre not meaning to but that's what you are doing. Imagine Someone writing something extremely important. Your reply should not be "Well sucks to be you, but I'm not having that issue." Your reply should be "Dang, that sucks youre going through that. I will help you get the attention of the Devs so they can see it."

Especially if I am literally saying every single editor I know is having the SAME ISSUES AS ME. So excuse me for thinking youre just an Adobe shill by trying to slap down every issue I have.

chrisw44157881

Inspiring

try pre-rendering to DnxHd. one person reported higher than normal CPU spikes with Prores. does simply adding a lumetri effect slow it down or only when adding a preset? can you convert it to a lut?

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CavanJFAuthor

Participating Frequently

Following back up here again but the issue definitely seems to be isolated to Lumetri presets and just the effects put on clips in general... this is not a hardware problem either– I'm sure of it. Anybody have any guidance on this or am I just meant to wait until the next Premiere update?

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default61n4tnx8azfm

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I've been experiencing lags too! I'm not sure if we're talking about the same thing but pretty much any basic task (like you said) starts to make Premiere glitch out and lag, especially when opening any of the above panels like effects, audio or graphics. It's been pretty much unusable for about a month, for me at least. I hope it can be fixed soon, I talked to customer care today and none of their tips worked.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

One other thing to try, is in the Audio hardware preferences, set default input to None ... for some reason, that helps some users with playback issues.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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