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October 7, 2024
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Import spanned Panasonic P2 files

  • October 7, 2024
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We had an issue with importing long Panasonic AVC-Intra 50 spanned files.

For example, a basketball match, which lenght about 45 minutes, the camera split the recording into multiple file, not larger than 4Go (Fat32 limitation i believe).

Normal behaviour is, importing clips thru the media browser, and this clip was saw as a 45 minutes clip, and imported into the bin as well. 

It doesn't work anymore. on the 24.6.1 on Mac, the media browser still see a 45 minutes clip, but after importing in the bin, the clip is now only 9 minutes (only one file was imported, not the all spanned clips)

 

I uninstalled the 24.6.1, and tried several version. The last one is working properly is the 23.6.9.
So there is a major issue with starting from version 24. 

Does anybody had same issue ? 

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
November 4, 2024

@Bruce Bullis might be able to pop in with a question or comment.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
November 4, 2024

In fact, this is not a third party connection. iSCSI is a quite common and used for a long time data protocol in network environnement. AVFS is the partition system developped by Avid, but used by a lot of company and very popular in broadcast industry, on both mac and windows.

In large scale production environnement, this is really popular to use "Editing Lan Share storage". They were designed to use AVFS via iSCSI for better packets transfer performance. They rater be better in performance than a standard "NAS".

 

A friend, had the same trouble in his Avid Nexis storage, on a Mac.

 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
November 4, 2024

Ahh, so there's a "third party" data connection involved. That would add complications.

 

Why do all these companies make their own little 'joys' in the process rather than using standard movement protocols? Stupid question I know, but ... sheesh.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
November 4, 2024

@R Neil HaugenHello, i did test with booth AVFS and SMB.

With AVFS it doesn't work as same with the media browser. Same issue.
With SMB it works ! But as i said, the SMB in this server is only usable as debugging purposes, speed and performance are not good.

 

AVFS (Avid File System) is used on high performance high speed editing share server, like Avid Nexis, Ardis DDP, and more.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 31, 2024

If you use the new Import page options, upper-right corner, to ingest ... does it have the same problems? There are the copy and verify and such options up there. It's the way Karl Soule suggests adding spanned media now, rather then the MediaBrowser panel.

 

I don't know if the underlying process is 'different', but might be worth a quick test.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
October 31, 2024

Hello ! I think this is related to this know issue https://helpx.adobe.com/premiere-pro/kb/known-issues.html

on the relase note for 24.1. As i said, the last working version for our issue, is the 23.6.9 ...

 

Issue: Premiere Pro is impacted as it relies on Adobe Media Encoder for ingest, and Adobe Media Encoder is crashing when using the ingest-copy setting to import certain file structure camera cards such as ARRI, AVCHD, Canon XF, Panasonic P2, Canon RAW, XDCAM EX, or XDCAM HD. 

Workaround: Copy the camera card first, then import through the media browser with Ingest settings turned off.

 

Detail i didn't mention, but i think it's important. The card are stored in folders on a DDP file server. We are connected to it thru AVFS (via iSCSI protocol). If i connect to this server via SMB, the issue doesn't appear.

So, regarding the knowing issue, there is something wrong with the AVFS/iSCSI protocol.

Anyway, we don't use the ingest-copy function. Only importing the clips into the bin, without copy.

 

But i think elements are here.

@Kevin-Monahan  can  you help us ?

Participating Frequently
October 7, 2024

I found it. But it's worst ... It only saw 9 minutes for the 45 minutes clip.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 7, 2024

Look for the Karl Soule channel on YouTube. 

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participating Frequently
October 7, 2024

Do you have the link for the youtube video ?

Participating Frequently
October 7, 2024

Thanks for reply.
Here's the tree for audio file. I took one randomly.

 

Yes, we copy the whole CONTENTS folder. This is the first thing i checked.

We're working with P2 for about 15 years. So, i know the danger to separate folder.

 

I will post more details on our workflows, but tomorrow, when i'll be in front of computer.
But it happen not on a single mac. But on several of owned computer. Editing stations are base on MacStudio M1 and M2, running Ventura or Sonoma. But i did my test on a iMac with the last Ventura update.