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Rob Ainscough
Rob Ainscough
Inspiring
May 24, 2022
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Is HDR broken in Pr 2022? 2100 HLG with HEVC 10bit 4:2:0 blown out ?

  • May 24, 2022
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Source is iPhone 13 Pro Max with 4K 60 HDR recording, looks GREAT during playback on my iPhone.

Export the MOV to Pr 2022 and load Pr and it looks terrible, whites are blown out.

 

I've verified Adobe Pr settings/preferences:

  • Display Color Management = checked
  • Extended dynamic range monitoring (when available) = checked
  • Optimize rendering for: Memory

 

Sequence Settings:

  • Apple ProRes 4444
  • Max Bit Depth = checked
  • Max Render Quality = checked (this settings does NOT save??)
  • Composite in Linear Color is grayed out???

 

I've tried my monitor at 8 bpc Full range RGB, 10 bpc Full range RGB, 10 bpc YCbCr422 and YCbCr444 and this settings make no difference if output (white still blown out).

 

In addition, when I check "Max Bit Depth" and "Max Render Quality" I get a warning about setting Optimize rendering for "Memory" when it already IS set to "Memory"??

 

It feels like HDR in Pr 2022 is VERY broken, is it just me?  Anyone else successfully worked with iPhone 13 HDR video at 4K 60 FPS in Pr and it looked good?

 

GPU is an nvidia RTX Titan 24GB VRAM with latest nVidia Studio Drivers (not game drivers) v512.59.

 

FYI: I did check Kevin's post here and I'm last option working in HDR with HDR and an HDR monitor/cable with HDR capable GPU with my OS set for HDR.

 

 

Rob.

 

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Correct answer Rob Ainscough

SOLUTION:

Upgraded to Windows 11.

 

So all my troubles are because YouTube wouldn't recognize my PC as being HDR enabled under Windows 10.  I just upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday and now all my HDR videos on YouTube are showing the HDR logo.

 

From iPhone 13 Pro Max

https://youtu.be/CojO6VkAq0Q

 

From nVidia video capture PC output

https://youtu.be/IaLcMnmmPAU

 

Needs some color grading and more work, but they finally show up as HDR now on YouTube.  So I was getting all the Pr settings correct, it was simply a YouTube issue on detecting my PC as HDR.

 

Rob.

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movingimage
movingimage
Participating Frequently
June 20, 2022

Hello -

 

I believe there is a real issue here with:

 

  • Max Render Quality = checked (this settings does NOT save??)

 

I have the same issue. I click it, close the dialog, re-open it, and it is unchecked. I am on a tootally different system (Apple M1 MAX). Running latest version of Premiere 2022. Using hardware accel & Display Color mgmt. 

 

Joe

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    June 20, 2022

    That's not good ...

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
    Rob Ainscough
    Rob AinscoughAuthorCorrect answer
    Inspiring
    June 8, 2022

    SOLUTION:

    Upgraded to Windows 11.

     

    So all my troubles are because YouTube wouldn't recognize my PC as being HDR enabled under Windows 10.  I just upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday and now all my HDR videos on YouTube are showing the HDR logo.

     

    From iPhone 13 Pro Max

    https://youtu.be/CojO6VkAq0Q

     

    From nVidia video capture PC output

    https://youtu.be/IaLcMnmmPAU

     

    Needs some color grading and more work, but they finally show up as HDR now on YouTube.  So I was getting all the Pr settings correct, it was simply a YouTube issue on detecting my PC as HDR.

     

    Rob.

      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      June 8, 2022

      Things like that can drive ya nuts, you know?

       

      Glad it's sorted for you ...

       

      Neil

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
        Rob Ainscough
        Rob AinscoughAuthor
        Inspiring
        June 8, 2022

        You mean more nuts than I already am? 🙂  ... yeah, I was doing everything correctly for HDR, just YouTube wasn't.

          R Neil Haugen
          R Neil Haugen
          Legend
          May 24, 2022

          So what are your color management settings within Premiere? Sounds like you're working with HLG clips on a Rec.709 sequence.

           

          You need to work either with using the CM tools to set HLG clips to Rec.709 on a Rec.709 sequence, or make sure if you want to work with HDR media, that you have an HDR sequence. For the iPhone that would be in the HLG space.

           

          Here's their page on working with HDR media in Pr2022, which has a completely rebuilt color system, color management tools, and default behaviors than Pr2021.

           

          HDR in Premiere Pro 2022

           

          Neil

          Everyone's mileage always varies ...
          Rob Ainscough
          Rob AinscoughAuthor
          Inspiring
          May 25, 2022

          Hi Neil,

           

          Yes, working with iPhone 13 HLG 2100:

           

          When I check "Maximum Render Quality" and hit OK, then return back to check the Sequence Settings, "Maximum Render Quality" is unchecked??  Pr 2022 doesn't appear to be saving the setting.

           

          My monitor is in HDR mode (Samsung Odyessy G9 which supports HDR10).

           

          So no go for HDR HLG 2100 with my setup.  Looked at your link but sadly didn't help.

           

          I can set it to R709 but I need to do a full HDR output and it doesn't seem to be working in Pr 2022.

           

          Rob.

          R Neil Haugen
          R Neil Haugen
          Legend
          May 30, 2022

          I can't imagine why anyone using Pr would want those checkboxes?  Why does someone want to be locked out of changing those settings?  Can you give some context?

           

          Default values are initially assign/set when the export screen is loaded or when the format is changed, that's how 99.9% of UI's work with just about any application.  I've never ever seen a UI that wants to "lockout" changes to settings, kinda defeats the purpose of having the settings, no?

           

          Maybe in edit, to lock layers/tracks, but export settings?

           

          Anyway, still no HDR output regardless of what settings I use.  Is there a way to reset my Pr preferences and put Pr back in a default state?  In the past (several years ago), I've had problems with Pr where it didn't have appropriate rights to write to directory/folder locations outside the MS best practices for file/data locations.  But I thought that was solved in more recent versions?

           

          I sorta feels like the Pr development team are primarily OSX platform developers and not really wanting to get involved in the Windows side of things.

           

          Anyway, I'm about to uninstall Pr completely and reset my entire Adobe set of applications and then reinstall my plugins, etc. etc. in the hope this will fix HDR, but I have my doubts.

           

          I think you missed my point about GPU settings ... if GPU settings can be set "per project" then they should NOT be available in global Preference as a setting.

           

          Rob

           


          think you missed my point about GPU settings ... if GPU settings can be set "per project" then they should NOT be available in global Preference as a setting.

           

          And perhaps you missed the to me obvious point of the GPU comment in the Display Color Management setting. If you've locked that out for the project, you can't set it in the Preferences ... which seems entirely logical to me. I can't understand this being ... an odd thing. Preferences do not override the Project settings in the heirarchy of things. You can have preferences set differently in different projects.

           

          The checkboxes are just an odd way of setting things to the default. They don't lock anything out at all. They're just a switch. The engineers think they make perfect "obvious" sense. I've never thought they made sense but hey, like a lot of other things, they don't ask me first, you know?

           

          The way to set everything back to default is the old "trash preferences" ...

          Trash Preferences

           

          And I'm total PC, and can export HDR without problems, so it can be done. We just have to figure out what's going bonkers on your rig.

           

          Neil

           

          Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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