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Copied from a post by Francis Crossman, the product manager for Premiere Pro. Great advice, including how to switch off the function in your phone so you never have the issue until you are ready to embrace HDR.
Francis wrote:
"One thing that is tripping up so many people here is that the iPhone is shooting in HDR by default, and it has an HDR screen, so videos look phenomenal on it. High Dynamic Range video contains more light and color level than Standard Dynamic Range video (Rec709). Unless you have an HDR display on your computer (and have everything is set up properly), you will never see it the same way as on the phone. The vast majority of people have an SDR display. When you send the video to your computer, QuickTime player will do tonemapping while sending it to your SDR display so it looks decent. Premiere Pro does not have this capability yet.
Here's what's happening. PPro reads the metadata in the file, sees that it's HDR (HLG to be specific) and treats it that way. If you create a sequence from the file the sequence will be set up as HLG automatically. But your monitor is physically not capable of displaying the light levels in the file so that's why things look blown out. If you look at the scopes, you will see that nothing is actually lost. You could use Lumetri to grade the file down to SDR levels.
Here are a few options that I recomend. Choose the one that works for you:
Don't capture in HDR on your iPhone.
OR . . .
Override the colorspace of the files to Rec709
OR . . .
Actually work in HDR and create an HDR video
Hope this helps. HDR is legitimately confusing!"
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WOW! what a great answer!!!
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Thank you!!
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I don't have "Modify" in the right click menu, and I don't see it in any other menus. Where can I find those settings? Do I right click on the clip or the preview?
Pr Pro 22.5.0 Build 62
27" iMac Retina 5k
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Select the clip or clips in the Project panel/bin. Then right-click, and you should have Modify as one of the options.
Neil
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Thank you! I found that just before you posted. I also found that more specific steps are as follows
Right click on the clip's file name in the Project pannel and select Modify > Interpret Footage (Use Shift+left click to select multiple clips)
Look for the Color Management section near the bottom of the Interpret Footage dialoge box.
Select "Color Space Override"
Choose Rec. 709 from the drop down menu.
Select "OK" to close the dialogue box and commit changes.
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I am wondering if the latest versions of Premiere changed those settings—at least on macOS. No longer seeing the change colorspace under Color Management.
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No, that whole three-option area should be showing. That's a puzzler.
Neil
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Yeah, thought the same thing. It has been like that with all versions of Adobe Premiere Pro 2022 on my end. Even uninstalled and reinstalled.
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Worked like a charm. It made a massive difference in how the iPhone video now appears. Thanks!
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Thanks for this. I still have the issue it seems.
Left to right: Rec709, then Rec2020, then original.
So confused.
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First, I have no idea what you're comparing ... are those screen grab images from within PrPRo or a mix of Pr and a video player, or a video player? What's your OS, as that does make a massive difference unfortunately?
Second ... no camera made has a really accurate viewing screen, not even the $70,000 RED, Arri, and Sony rigs. For field work, they pay for a highly accurate heavily calibrated screen to be on-set, if not connected to the camera. Next, very few computer setups actaully show an accurate image on-screen according to full specs of either Rec.709 or any HDR.
Unless the image is run through a breakout-device like BlackMagic or AJA cards to the screen, so that neither the OS nor the GPU touch the image. That's how pro colorists work, and they never consider a computer monitor 'accurate'.
Premiere tries to give the most close approximation it can to the standards of the CM it's set for within the program. On most systems, and ALL Macs, users must set the Preferences option for Display Color Management to 'on'. And viewing an accurate SDR/Rec.709 image is a lot easier than an accurate HDR image ... period. Even though the Mac color management system uses a wrong gamma to display SDR/Rec.709 videos, within Pr, you'll see a decently accurate image. IF you have the CM for the clip and sequence set correctly.
Last ... Rec.709 has a different set of three primary colors and both the gamut (range) and volume (the actual discrete colors available) are much smaller than the HDR forms, whether HLG, PQ, or say HDR10. Which are all slightly different from each other.
So yes, there will be differences in the image when properly displayed within any color space when transformed to different color spaces. If there wasn't, we wouldn't need them, or want them, would we?
Neil
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Thank you, you help solving my problem
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Well, I began using this method (as annoying as it is) a few months ago, and it worked. Great. No big deal.
But now — inexplicably — this method has stopped working. The iPhone footage was filmed in HDR, and now when interpreting the footage to Rec. 709 or Rec. 2020 — there is zero change. It is yellow, flat, and blown out. I modify the footage before dragging into the timeline.
So, why? It worked before! Why now? No updates or changes to the software have occurred.
I do not want to have re-film everything with HDR turned off.
I'm using: Adobe PrePro 23.0.0 (Build 63) on MacOS Monterrey 12.6.1
with: iPhone 13 Pro Max - iOS 16.3.1
Any thoughts? Thank you!
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Thanks MattSC7C for the heads-up. I will test this to see if I have the same problem. Like you, I have been using the work-around you descrive for editing iPhone footage. Almost everything I have recorded in the last couple of years was shot in HDR on the iPhone. If this has stopped working it will bring iPhone videography to a dead stop. Seems like Adobe would know that iPhone video is extrodinarly common. Why would they not have an easy way to fix this?
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It's not a good look for Adobe. Even having to manually re-interpret the footage shouldn't be a thing.
My workaround was opening the files in Quicktime, and exporting in H.264.
They look great in PrePro after that.
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also...should mention....I attempted that exact thing in Adobe Media Encoder — and it did not solve the color problem.