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Is HDR broken in Pr 2022? 2100 HLG with HEVC 10bit 4:2:0 blown out ?

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May 24, 2022
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Source is iPhone 13 Pro Max with 4K 60 HDR recording, looks GREAT during playback on my iPhone.

Export the MOV to Pr 2022 and load Pr and it looks terrible, whites are blown out.

I've verified Adobe Pr settings/preferences:

Display Color Management = checked
Extended dynamic range monitoring (when available) = checked
Optimize rendering for: Memory

Sequence Settings:

Apple ProRes 4444
Max Bit Depth = checked
Max Render Quality = checked (this settings does NOT save??)
Composite in Linear Color is grayed out???

I've tried my monitor at 8 bpc Full range RGB, 10 bpc Full range RGB, 10 bpc YCbCr422 and YCbCr444 and this settings make no difference if output (white still blown out).

In addition, when I check "Max Bit Depth" and "Max Render Quality" I get a warning about setting Optimize rendering for "Memory" when it already IS set to "Memory"??

It feels like HDR in Pr 2022 is VERY broken, is it just me? Anyone else successfully worked with iPhone 13 HDR video at 4K 60 FPS in Pr and it looked good?

GPU is an nvidia RTX Titan 24GB VRAM with latest nVidia Studio Drivers (not game drivers) v512.59.

FYI: I did check Kevin's post here and I'm last option working in HDR with HDR and an HDR monitor/cable with HDR capable GPU with my OS set for HDR.

Rob.

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Correct answer Rob Ainscough

SOLUTION:

Upgraded to Windows 11.

So all my troubles are because YouTube wouldn't recognize my PC as being HDR enabled under Windows 10. I just upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday and now all my HDR videos on YouTube are showing the HDR logo.

From iPhone 13 Pro Max

https://youtu.be/CojO6VkAq0Q

From nVidia video capture PC output

https://youtu.be/IaLcMnmmPAU

Needs some color grading and more work, but they finally show up as HDR now on YouTube. So I was getting all the Pr settings correct, it was simply a YouTube issue on detecting my PC as HDR.

Rob.

movingimage

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Hello -

I believe there is a real issue here with:

Max Render Quality = checked (this settings does NOT save??)

I have the same issue. I click it, close the dialog, re-open it, and it is unchecked. I am on a tootally different system (Apple M1 MAX). Running latest version of Premiere 2022. Using hardware accel & Display Color mgmt.

Joe

Rob AinscoughAuthor

Inspiring

It's definitely a bug ... but it's because you have ..

...Using hardware accel...

By @movingimage

If you switch over to software rendering then that option will stick. The issues seems to be Adobe understanding the various GPUs (and drivers) and what they can and can't do ... anyway, side point, Adobe should simply NOT show the option if the GPU hardware isn't able to support the Max Render Quality option ... allowing users to check this option but ignoring the user input because of hardware acceleration is just going to trigger confusion and more support questions.

I'm not sure what Hardware actually support Max Render Quality but I'm guessing something very expensive and exotic as you definitely do NOT want to be rendering as software as that will take forever and a day pending project and encoder.

Rob.

Rob AinscoughAuthorCorrect answer

Inspiring

SOLUTION:

Upgraded to Windows 11.

So all my troubles are because YouTube wouldn't recognize my PC as being HDR enabled under Windows 10. I just upgraded to Windows 11 yesterday and now all my HDR videos on YouTube are showing the HDR logo.

From iPhone 13 Pro Max

https://youtu.be/CojO6VkAq0Q

From nVidia video capture PC output

https://youtu.be/IaLcMnmmPAU

Needs some color grading and more work, but they finally show up as HDR now on YouTube. So I was getting all the Pr settings correct, it was simply a YouTube issue on detecting my PC as HDR.

Rob.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Things like that can drive ya nuts, you know?

Glad it's sorted for you ...

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Rob AinscoughAuthor

Inspiring

You mean more nuts than I already am? 🙂 ... yeah, I was doing everything correctly for HDR, just YouTube wasn't.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

So what are your color management settings within Premiere? Sounds like you're working with HLG clips on a Rec.709 sequence.

You need to work either with using the CM tools to set HLG clips to Rec.709 on a Rec.709 sequence, or make sure if you want to work with HDR media, that you have an HDR sequence. For the iPhone that would be in the HLG space.

Here's their page on working with HDR media in Pr2022, which has a completely rebuilt color system, color management tools, and default behaviors than Pr2021.

HDR in Premiere Pro 2022

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

Rob AinscoughAuthor

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Hi Neil,

Yes, working with iPhone 13 HLG 2100:

When I check "Maximum Render Quality" and hit OK, then return back to check the Sequence Settings, "Maximum Render Quality" is unchecked?? Pr 2022 doesn't appear to be saving the setting.

My monitor is in HDR mode (Samsung Odyessy G9 which supports HDR10).

So no go for HDR HLG 2100 with my setup. Looked at your link but sadly didn't help.

I can set it to R709 but I need to do a full HDR output and it doesn't seem to be working in Pr 2022.

Rob.

R Neil Haugen

Legend

Yea, if you're trying to work in HDR, you need to set the sequence to either the HLG or PQ options.

You only do the Rec.709 for working a Rec.709 sequence.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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