Large project, tragic performance

[getho]

I've been dealing with terrible performance - I thought the issue was ppro 25 (https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/premiere-pro-25-performance-vs-24/m-p/154086...)

but yesterday I used 25 to work on a much smaller project and it was fine.    Why would a large project kill performance? How can the volume of source media slow it down? Does it make a difference that the source media is from multiple paths?   Does lots of warp stabilise data affect perfomace?  Knowing this stuff would help develop best practice with large projects (and tell me when to start from scratch)
I'm going to to import this project into a new one today and see if that helps.  

[Peru Bob]

What are the complete computer specs, including hard drives (how many, what kind, what is on each, what capacity, and how full)?

Is there enough free hard drive space/

If NVIDIA graphics, make sure to use a Studio Driver from NVIDIA (NOT a Game Driver).

[getho]

windows 11 24h2
Intel 13700K 64gb ddr5

gigabyte z690 aero D
rtx 4080 16GB driver 561.09

OS on NVME ssd

Cache on separate nvme drive
Media on raid 5

older driver because of reports of problems with newer ones, but I might jump up a few versions

[RjL190365]

A system that delivers decent performance on smaller projects but chokes on larger projects is usually indicative of that system having an insufficient amount of RAM for the job. It is likely that your installed system RAM got depleted on your large projects, which forced more extensive use of your system's OS disk drive where the page file is located. And that will hurt system performance since even the fastest modern SSD is slower than the slowest modern system RAM.

[getho · Accepted solution]

I actually wonder if there's something going on with my graphics card. Yesterday it was absolutely choking.  Just because why not I soft reset the graphics card driver, and performance improved a lot.  

It would be good to know which bits of the project stay in ram - I've probably got a lot of room to optimise things (like storing stock clips on the same sequence - quick to use but they realy could all go into another sequence)

[caroline_edits]

Thanks for sharing that resetting your GPU driver helped!

Have you had a chance to try Productions yet? Let us know if you have any questions about the workflow.

Happy to help,

Caroline

[R Neil Haugen]

You should try using the Productions mode, which breaks the entire "project" into sections of project files in a spiffy, organized manner ... and makes larger products much more efficient to do. It's what is recommended for all long-form, episodic, and large projects.

I went to it for my small shop, as it means that all my b-roll, sound libraries, and template sequences are available for use on anything I do. Slick.

And even if you don't their documentation has the best practical advice for using Premiere they've ever published ... largely because noted user Jarle Leirpoll wrote most of it.

Premiere Pro Productions Introduction

Using Productions in Premiere Pro

Adobe Long-form and Episodic Best Practices Guide 

Jarle’s blog expansion of the pdf Multicam section: Premiere Pro Multicam

[getho]

thank you this seems like a great fit for me, because I have a large amount of stock footage - i could organise all of that into a whole separate thing. 

[MyerPj]

I think @R Neil Haugen suggestion and links would be a good fit for you. 

That's adobe's way of doing some of the things you would like to do.

Thanks for the tip on the graphics card also. 🙂