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JJRiley
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November 11, 2021
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LUT is automatically applied Sony .mxf

  • November 11, 2021
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I'm on Premiere v22 on an imac pro.

When opening existing projects from older versions some of my footage has a mutliplied LUT and the colors are oversaturated and blown out.  I'm using S-log footage .mxf from a Sony FS5/FS7. I tried to disable source effects clips and it is greyed out. I tried to modify the clip and it shows that it is using the source type (screengrab attached)

 

Anyone else having this issue?

My workaround is to turn off the LUT and readjust the color, but it is time consuming.

I'd like the project to open up the way it was created without having to readjust.

 

Thanks in advance for your help,

Jessey

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    Correct answer Kevin-Monahan

    Interpret the Footage to 709 and you should be back in the ballgame, JJ. Welcome to the brave new world of HDR. This is not a bug, but a feature. It is now set up so that you can have HDR clips and an HDR sequence. You do still need to create a HDR export preset, however. 

    If you prefer the legacy workflow, that is how you deal with it; via the Interpret Footage dialog box and "Colorspace Override" set to Rec. 709.

     

    Thanks,
    Kevin

    4 replies

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    scoobadia
    Participant
    March 14, 2022

    Kevin you're my hero. 

     

    What's happening with Adobe, there just seem to be so many problems and bugs in the software these days and if this is a feature, it's an awful one.  

    R Neil Haugen
    R Neil Haugen
    Legend
    March 14, 2022

    It's part of bringing Premiere Pro into the brave new world of multiple possible color and working spaces. Premiere used to be totally centered on Rec.709. Now ... it's not.

     

    Like Resolve, we're going to have to learn to set color and working spaces. There's more of the 'tools' of this coming over the next few months. It is a bit frustrating that the toolset isn't fully setup yet, and has some limitations and broken parts.

     

    Neil

    Everyone's mileage always varies ...
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    SteveBeyerProductions
    Participant
    October 29, 2023

    Thanks Neil & Kevin,
    I'm working with MXF files s-log 3 for the first time. PP Beta 24.1.0 (build 66)
    Where should I be looking for the latest workflow recommendations? (My project includes MOV and MP4 files as well, which I'm comfortable with, on their own.)

    ɹǝɟɟǝɥs ɹɹɐs
    pintoproductions
    pintoproductions
    Participant
    February 26, 2022

    Kevin, you are a GOD among men. Thank you!

      Dwas2000
      Dwas2000
      Inspiring
      February 18, 2022

      Same problum.

      If you have merged clips there is no option to modify back to rec709.

       

      R Neil Haugen
      R Neil Haugen
      Legend
      February 18, 2022

      I don't think you actually have a LUT applied there ... what it's doing is simply displaying the log-encoded footage as HDR ... as if it is meant to be HLG. You see, all HDR media is log-encoded, but some log-encoded media is still expected to be seen as SDR/Rec.709. And Premiere 2022 gets itself confused at times with this.

       

      I'm guessing that it won't allow an Override to Rec.709 after merging, but would before. There are some Sony/Panny cameras where their SDR log-encoded clips aren't allowed an Override to Rec.709 option, but ... aren't meant to be HLG at all. And there's no way really to 'fix' that in this version. Which is an acknowledged bug by the engineers, and we're awaiting that and several other fixes for the new color system that replaced the entire previous color version with the 2022 release.

       

      I'd wondered about merged  clips, but hadn't taken the time to test. I'm certainly not surprised. @Smit-Shah , could you check this out for us? Smit works on the color side of things.

       

      And again ... as they completely rebuilt the color systems and color management of Pr2022, including adding new CM user contrrols nearly hidden around the app, and changed many default behaviors, I wrote a forum FAQ on those changes. There's also information in it on what is currently broken, such as the Sony/Panny cam thing, and also that proxy workflows from HLG clips is totally busted. I also wrote a FAQ about using a monitor within HDR, if you want to work in HDR ... as that also went through a dramatic shift.

       

      Neil

       

      FAQ:PremierePro 2022 Color Management for Log/RAW Media



      How to Set Monitors for HDR work in Premiere Pro 2022?

      Everyone's mileage always varies ...
      Dwas2000
      Dwas2000
      Inspiring
      February 19, 2022

      Thanks Neil

       

      In the end I had to go through all my timeline and replace the merged clips. couldent find a workaround.

       

      Also had to go back a version with Adobe Media Encoder as it was also flaging the files as HDR when batch exporting. not looking to ouput HDR on this project.

      Hopfully this will get fixed soon. 

      Kevin-Monahan
      Community Manager
      Kevin-MonahanCommunity ManagerCorrect answer
      Community Manager
      November 11, 2021

      Interpret the Footage to 709 and you should be back in the ballgame, JJ. Welcome to the brave new world of HDR. This is not a bug, but a feature. It is now set up so that you can have HDR clips and an HDR sequence. You do still need to create a HDR export preset, however. 

      If you prefer the legacy workflow, that is how you deal with it; via the Interpret Footage dialog box and "Colorspace Override" set to Rec. 709.

       

      Thanks,
      Kevin

      Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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        JJRileyAuthor
        Known Participant
        November 11, 2021

        Great! That worked. Thanks for the help, Kevin.

          Kevin-Monahan
          Community Manager
          Kevin-MonahanCommunity Manager
          Community Manager
          November 12, 2021

          BTW, HDR workflow is not what most people want to do right now in late 2021. Very few clients will be asking for it any time soon. Still, nice to know it's there - but this post should help others that should not be stepping into the HDR minefield just yet. 🙂

           

          Kevin

          Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community and Engagement Strategist – Adobe Pro Video and Audio
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