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Odd behavior when adding video clips on top of a nested sequence

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April 22, 2021
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I've been stumbling over this a lot lately where I have created a nested sequence, then, when I add some video assets above the nested sequence, it acts like I disable the nested sequence track. Then, simply sliding the added asset off of the top of the nested sequence it appears again.

I had thought I was crazy, but when it happened today, I carefully went back an repeated the steps I went through and then did a screen grab with audio describing what I was doing. (sorry for the single audio channel, just lazy as my mic only records one channel and I usually run thru a pipeline for production but ... just here among friends, one channel only).

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkc43z86dfc7dve/premiere-nestedseq-prob.mp4?dl=0

Edit: on the original timeline before I nested it, I don't have this problem at the exact same time in the timeline. See this attached video for what I mean by that.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1a0eexg2j2zg9zu/premiere-nestedseq-probA.mp4?dl=0

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ofir253580895bx2

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I experience the same problem.

Please, Adobe, fix it.

I have made a nested sequence, and made a frame hold segment from it. The nested sequance consists of 3 consequtive clips.

In a track on top of that, i have *copied* a graphic clip from earlier in the video. this graphic clip is tiny and half transperent.

When the preview gets to the moment they both should be played simultaniously, the nested sequance turns black.

MyerPj

Community Expert

Make the frame hold from the frame on screen. Use the Camera button on the program monitor, and "import into project", use a png. Then don't use a frame hold on the nested sequence. This is covered above.

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ofir253580895bx2

New Participant

Thank you, I'll try it.

Why it happens in the first place?

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

Adobe says, call Apple, Apple says call Adobe

I have a nested sequence on my timeline and when I put anything above it (simple graphic title does it as well as anything else), the screen video goes full black (see dropbox link).

I called Adobe support this morning and they immediately switch to software encoding and the problem went away. They said it's a known issue with the AMD graphics driver and that I should call Apple and they would update my Graphics Driver and the problem would be solved. I called Apple, talked to a senior support person and they said in no uncertain terms Adobe is 3rd Party software and they do not support that, and that there are no drivers beyond what comes in the OS available.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/gkc43z86dfc7dve/premiere-nestedseq-prob.mp4?dl=0

HELP!!!!!!!!

(I posted this problem earlier on a different thread before contacting Adobe support. The problem is happening a lot to me now causing major disruption in my editing productivity. )

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro/odd-behavior-when-adding-video-clips-on-top-of-a-nested-sequence/td-p/11988156

Ann Bens

Community Expert

Export offending section with software encoding to intermediate file and put that on the timeline.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

Thanks Ann, that's what I've been doing but it's getting old. Is there a shortcut way to do that? I don't know what "render in place is", or something like that.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

I'm going to start a new thread on this since the answers have gotten lost from the actual solution. I called Adobe support and by turning on software encoding the problem went away. They said it's a known problem with my MacBook and AMD graphics drivers (This happens on both my latest Intel corei9 macbook, as well as my 2015 corei7 macbook.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

Another piece of information. I has nothing to do with the gif. i get the same behavior when I just have graphic (title) on the page.

Ann Bens

Community Expert

Make new sequence and copy everything over.

Or

make new project and import this one

or

make a new nest from scratch

or

FAQ: How to reset (trash) preferences.

Dont use gifs for lower 3rd, beside this one has an odd framerate.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

Sadly, no joy. same problem, but it did reveal that I was saving my project to the place I was not expecting so some value there.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

Actually, the animated gif is Image Size: 960 x 130, so that should not affect the rest of the page (I'm not scaling it here)

Averdahl

Community Expert

That suggests that you have setup the timeline wrong. HD video is 1920x1080 and you can go to Sequence > Sequence Settings to verify.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

All my content I create myself from full screen recordings at 1920x1080 so there shouldn't be an difference there. I just checked both the sequence and the nested sequence and they are the same (see attached).

What baffles me is that I thought the point of nesting is that you can do a "right mouse/nest" of a timeline and then you can work on that nest as if it's one timeline in an identical way you would if you left all the cuts there, but now you have a fresh, no cuts sequence to work on.

The first 10x this happened, I just worked around it with screen snaps and encoding and reimporting, but this is getting very tiring.

peterkellner1Author

Inspiring

@R Neil Haugen and @Averdahl , what I expect to happens is that the lower timeline will be shown as it is full screen and the animated gif is just a small part of the screen. But instead, the full view of the timeline goes black.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/5tq2gtrq3om00ec/RightSide_Long_OrangeDark.gif?dl=0

I also updated the question to include another short video showing that if I do the exact same layering on top of the original timeline (before I did the "nest"), it works as I expect without blacking out the rest of the video. It seems to me there is something different about nesting, or some weird bug.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1a0eexg2j2zg9zu/premiere-nestedseq-probA.mp4?dl=0

Averdahl

Community Expert

No, that file has no transparency. The reason why it appears to have transparency is that your timeline´s width and height is larger than the animation that is 960x130. So if you place it in a 1920x1080 timeline you will see part of the video on Video 1 since 960x130 on Video 2 is smaller.

I would personally avoid using animated gif´s and would have used a standard video format for the animation, iow a format that is standard for video editing applications. The frame rate of the gif is 33,33 fps and that can cause issues down the road. Always use standard video framerates such as 24 fps, 25 fps, 29.97 fps, 30 fps, 50 fps, 60 fps. Make sure that the timeline matches as well. Otherwise the final render will look odd and stuttery.

Averdahl

Community Expert

Don´t use animated gif´s as source video. It has no transpareny and it don´t work=everything goes black.

Either convert it to a video file or export the animation from the app that creates it to a video format that Premiere Pro accepts, such as .mp4/.mov/.avi/.mxf.

R Neil Haugen

Brainiac

I'm puzzled ... what you expected to happen? Media on V2 always 'covers' whatever is on V1 unless you've got a mask going in there.Or it's an Adjustment layer with effects applied or a graphics element.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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