Premiere Pro CC 2017.1 - Titles workspace and tool

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The render time has increased astronomically. I have a five minute video with 13 simple pop on/pop off titles; the render time is about an hour.

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My renders are also glitching. I'm basically back to the 1997 version of Adobe Premiere 4.1 where waiting 2 hours for a glitchy MOV file was normal.

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This feature crashes my projects. The selecting font function is unstable. I also have to scroll down the font list every time I need a font that begins past the letter "K".

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Hello,

Thanks for the update.

I can't seem to find any functionality for modifying the style, font, placement, and movement of subtitle files like SRT. Are SRTs still relegated to the Captions tab? Currently we have to use a third party for modifications, it would be great if Premiere could add this functionality to the program.

Danny

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KevinAGI

Known Participant

OK being one that immediately sees some potential in this I dug in...

Then failed!. My first attempt at producing a lovely animated Lower third looked like results from my old TARGA days (Neil will get it). Where is the motion blur? Where is the object parenting? I do not want to go back to the days where I am counting pixels of movement per frame to produce a smooth animation. I feel like they gave us a subset of aftereffects, but then turned off all of the things that actually make it work. Come on people I know there are Beta Testers out there, I use to be one. Someone needs to actually council the product engineering team on how we work.

Kevin

Legend

Had to chuckle on your comment. Um, ... yea.

But as James Strawn hath said here, they got it to a point it had some usable parts, and decided to roll out with the partially-featured EGP as the Main Event, rather than an added tool for now.

The working process is so different that at first, I couldn't do squat. And had to go through the tutorials I've listed just to be able to make a simple lower-third and modify it to fit what I needed. I've become rather familiar with the range of UI's used in the Adobe DVAs, and when I can't even begin to puzzle something out, I think many others may have at least some issues also.

However, after learning how this works ... in some ways, it's a more logical pattern more akin to dropping other effects on a sequence, where one uses the ECP to control things. But here, it's a mix or mashup ... some things you control in the EGP panel, some things you control in the ECP panel.

And to get some things we're used to having available in Titler, you ... start with EGP, change some settings in ECP, drop another effect on the ECP from the Effects panel, and use that controlled via the ECP to change your graphic.

And for other things ... um ... well, fuhgedaboutit. Sigh.

But I will say, after this is filled out with a larger set of capabilities it will be far spiffier.

I would have preferred at this point in time, that they had just added this and not done any change to the Titler location/capabilities.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

jstrawn

Community Manager

https://forums.adobe.com/people/R+Neil+Haugen wrote
But as James Strawn hath said here, they got it to a point it had some usable parts, and decided to roll out with the partially-featured EGP as the Main Event, rather than an added tool for now.

That's not exactly what I said... but thanks for the votes of confidence, Neil.

The reality is that we have to keep the right balance when it comes to implementing and testing new features. That is a delicate and complex issue, so I'd prefer to focus on providing feature tips and workarounds to users that need them.

Does anyone have a problem they are currently experiencing that we can maybe fix or help you work around? If so, simple steps, objective results/expectations and possibly a screenshot or two are most helpful.

Thanks,

-James

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bradleya94764635

Participant

For you guys suffering with this annoying change like I am, you can open older projects with those titles in them and duplicate and manipulate them if you still need access to the tool. Ughhh

Essential Graphics in Premiere Pro CC 2017.1.1 on Vimeo

Legend

The old Titler tool has been one of the more reviled features of PrPro ... until they rolled out what will eventually replace it, and it became the wonderful beloved Titler.

The EGP is quite a shock, though ... and sure didn't come with an easy & clear set of instructions ... or ... um ... any at all. That said, once one gets into what it can do at this time, it's a pretty good start. But it's so different in operation from the previous one there's no easy way to start with it.

I recommend watching these tutorials, first by James Strawn, one of the developing team members, and who's posted on here in several threads about this some very useful information.

reTooled.net has a good one or two ...

reTooled.net – After Effects & Premiere Pro – April 2017- The Essential Graphics Panel in Depth

Plus this one ...

The NEW Essential Graphics Panel in Premiere Pro CC 2017 (Spring Update) - YouTube

What it can do, it does pretty spiffily. For all it can't there's still the "Legacy Titler".

And here's hoping they get a number of the "missing" tools of the new EGP ready & out the door to us users soon.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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Bernard Kaminski

Participating Frequently

Please tell my what to do with all old projects which use titles?
Now becuse of Adobe whim You make them completely incompatible !!!

The projects which have been made just a month ago now they are USELESS beacuse of YOU.

What with these all hours spend with projects ? You don't respect work becuase of You whim to force people to use new tools! [xxxxx]

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sr59085651

Participant

How can we modify an exiting title if it is not saved in the project Bin?

This is a terrible, stupid change.

What problem did Adobe think it was solving?

This destroys a very common work flow for us.

Really to bad.

RCHINCHILLAM

Known Participant

You can drag it from the timeline to the project window.

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RHSeditor

Participant

The old way was far more intuitive. I appreciate all the hard work that goes into developing Premiere and adding new features but this is not a good change. Bad change. It's not powerful enough to do advanced, professional-looking motion titles & graphics, and it creates yet another panel that I need to find room for on my desktop if I want to do basic titles, rather than just ctrl+t to make a new, double-click to edit an existing, click the "x" when you're done.

You can no longer edit titles by double-clicking them on the timeline? Titles no longer appear in the project panel? How was this considered a good change?

meaganm36063337

Inspiring

I have been working with the new title tool for several months and I hate it. I finally relented and went back to the legacy tool also because the new one is doing my head in. I hope they either improve it or completely scrap it in the next update.

I never post on these forums but I'm so annoyed with this i wanted to add my opinion.

Legend

It would be both more helpful and more interesting to know what were the specific ... or at least the worst! ... of the problems you had with that tool. It is new, and James Strawn (one of the developing team!) and a couple other of the engineers have even been on here occasionally to both assist users and get information as to how the EGP "seems" to users.

I think Stefan is also passing information around some, if I'm not mistaken. Which is good.

Also useful would be ... have you been through some of the various video tutorials and blogs out there on using the EGP, or just trying to puzzle it out on your own? As I know ... even with my experience with this and other Adobe apps, I couldn't figure out nothin' on that panel at first.

After watching the presentations on it at NAB, and viewing ... several times ... some of the other tutorials out, it's pretty slick for much of what I do, with still some huge holes for missing things. For others, it's pretty awesome, and for others, it just doesn't yet have anything they really NEED.

So it's best to get as wide a response in very practical direct comments as possible. They have been very clear this is EGP 0.8 or so. And needs further work.

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...

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josephh4495597

Participant

Thanks Andy for the information and reference!

;-)

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orodecub

Participant

Am I wrong or is the method of changing the font a total fail via the dropdown? It takes yeeeeeeeears to scroll down the list of fonts. Please Adobe....change that.

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Life Church

Participant

You are 200% correct this is a horrendous update as a whole in my professional opinion.

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Jeremy S...

Participating Frequently

Really?

I appreciate you developing new features. I don't appreciate a bunch of googling to re-learn something that wasn't broken. You should have at least left "legacy title" in the add menu.

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bradleya94764635

Participant

Bring back the old title Tools.