Premiere Pro Transcription Not Identifying Separate Voices

Late to this thread. I've been having the same issue... 

In settings --> transcription, under "automatic transcription" you can select "yes, separate speakers." This option seems to be turned off by default in the newest version of Permiere. You may have to check "automatic transcription" to un-gray the below area, but you can turn this automatic transcription option off afterwards if you'd like.  

I have been having a similar issue with transcribing source clips from the Program Monitor Transcript view: speakers were not separated but rather all labeled as chunks of undifferentiated "Unknown." I tried the route of going to Settings/Transcription, turning on "Automatically transcribe clips," selecting "Speaker Labeling: Yes, separate speakers," then turning "Autmatically transcribe clips" back off, but that didn't seem to help.

In case it's useful to anyone else, here's what has so far been working for my particular situation: I am working with two scenarios: 1) two cameras + separate audio and 2) one camera + separate audio. All source files have time-of-day timecode. What has worked for both situations is to create Multi-Camera Source Sequences, create static transcripts inside those sequences, and then edit those multi-cam sequences into my main timelines. So far, even working with multiple multi-cam sequences in one timeline, all transcripts show up correctly.

My workflow:

1) Select a group of related video and audio-only clips in the Project panel, right-click and choose "Create Multi-Camera Source Sequence..."

2) I choose "Synchronize Point: Timecode / Track Assignments: None" (which discards the video files' audio tracks and only keeps the separate audio, but that works for me in this situation); and choose "Audio: Sequence Settings: All Cameras," "Audio Channels Preset: Mono"; and "Camera Names: Use Clip Names."

3) Right click the that multi-cam sequence in the Project panel and choose "Open in Timeline."

4) Go to the Text panel and choose "Generate static transcript," which lets me choose to separate speakers and choose which audio track to use, which is important for situations where I have multiple people on separate mics, each on their own track: I choose Track 1, which is one of the in-the-field mixed tracks from my sound operator. (It sounds like Premiere will default to Track 1, but I don't want to risk it mixing all those separate lavalier tracks together.)

5) Wait for the auto transcription to complete. Question all my life choices.

6) Edit that transcribed multi-cam sequence into my main sequences/timelines.

I've actually found the separate speakers function to be a bit too aggressive in some situations, in one case separating one person's interview into multiple speakers in the transcript, sometimes word by word — I'm guessing because she often had long pauses in her sentences.

@Path 88 Productions 

Great detective work. It is my belief that such transcribes will only use track 1. But I just tested a dual track file and it was processing two tracks.  The workaround is to nest as described - when doing so, you can pick audio 1 or mix. I just tested, and the static transcription of the dual track sequence showed only one row in the progress panel.

But I'd like some staff input to guide you:

@Francis-Crossman17221443 @nbechere @Kevin-Monahan Who best to address this?

Stan

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check Edit -> Preferences -> Transcription and be sure you have speaker separation set there. If it shows "Select an option," it is not set. You can set it there by turning on "Automatically transcribe clips," setting speakers to "Yes, separate speakers," and then turning off "Automatically transcribe clips."

This solution might be what other's need to make transcribe work as requested in the OP?

Thanks for the advice.  I will try to experiement and see what happens.  I'm bouncing between versions of Premiere depending on what I need to do.

I tried right clicking a few source files in my project window, and then asking for them to be transcribed.  Interestingly, my source files typically have 6 tracks and all six tracks show up in the progress window.  That tells me it's analyzing all six tracks one at a time.  That's a shame.  Track1 of the file is the "mix" and it would be nice if Premiere only looked there to transcribe.

Do you know if there's a way to do that?

After all, having to wait as long as a day for 1 of audio is not very productive.

@Path 88 Productions,

See this staff post in the Beta forum:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-beta-bugs/text-based-editing-doesn-t-work-with-multiple-audio-channels/idc-p/13742725#M594

You can open your wav in the Source monitor, mark in/out, add to a sequence (with or without video), and do a static transcription of that sequence. Then use a nest of that sequence where you want that audio/transcript.

Let us know if this works for you.

Stan

Edit: I meant to add. Yes, you can transcribe an audio-only file. And when you add audio (nested or not), the transcript follows it. And Nico's comment about using a static transcript: I thought they were different creatures - source media transcript for clips and editing and static transcript for sequence and captions. But if you use a sequence as a nest, its static transcript becomes editable.

A big issue I have is that I'm working with off-board .wav audio recordings that go uninterrupted for hours.  Like, 4 hours each.  Unfortunately, the actual part I want trascribed might only be 15 minutes. 

Ideally, I'd slap that huge audio source in a sequence, edit out the parts I don't want, and allow Premiere to only look there and ignore the rest. 

However, it looks like they way they're implementing the newer features of transcribe, is that it'll analyze the whole source clip...and the best way you can get 'Identify Speakers' to work is to tell Premiere to analyze a source clip.

Is your expereience jibe'ing with my analysis?

FWIW, after all my posts here, I basically stepped back a version of Premiere and started using that.  Too much muck to deal with on the 23.3.0 version.  Anyone reading this in the future just realize that this itenteration of Premiere is a bit buggy on the transcripts.  Also the UI, but that's for another thread.

I do see why Adobe is implementing transcripts in this fashion, as it'll allow trascribed words to carry across multiple sequences when they are attached to a source rather than a timeline, but needs a touch of coding refinement before I rely on trascribing in this version of the app.