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R Neil Haugen
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October 2, 2023
Question

Shoot 29.97i or convert for deliverable?

  • October 2, 2023
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I have a proposed upcoming project under early discussions. It's for a non-profit,  where the more likely destination is client web use. But, if possible, it would be pitched to public TV.

 

Local public uses NPB standards, everything in 29.97i drop-frame. Of course that's 59.94.

 

That would not be my primary choice to shoot in. But I know a workable practice has been shoot 24p, edit, then take to Ae and do 3:2 pull-down.

 

Is that still the best thing, other than shooting in interlaced?

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R Neil Haugen
Legend
October 2, 2023

Thanks for those responding ... but perhaps I'd also like @Jarle Leirpoll , @Warren Heaton10841144 , and @Michael Grenadier to opine? I do like a range of experienced thoughts. The more the merrier ...

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Legend
October 2, 2023

Just finished a pbs cutdown.  I was told to deliver 29.97, but the piece was mastered as 24p   Gonna see if 24p will be accepted...  I've mentioned this to the client, but as usual, radio silence.   Not sure what the best way to add pulldown to make it 29.97...    If I remember correctly not a simple process to get the best quality, bwdik...   

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 2, 2023

found this from Warren a few years ago

https://community.adobe.com/t5/premiere-pro-discussions/23-976-to-29-97-conversion-2-methods-yield-different-results-why/m-p/10606536

Warren usually knows what he's talking about...  


If it's 100% for public access, shoot i29.97, edit i29.97, finish i29.97.  If a web version is being created, it can be deinterlaced for p29.97 web/social media.

 

However, if you shoot 23.976, edit 23.976, then export to 23.976 first and then do 3:2 pulldown on that to finish at i29.97.  Web/social media exports would just be exported to p23.976.


If it's most likely for web with a hope of public access, I'd lean toward 23.976.  That said, if this was going to my local PBS station, I'd take the time to talk to someone at the station.  It's likely to be important that the show be slated as "29.97 3:2 pulldown" assuming a five second or longer slate is included at the head of the tapeless delivery.

Remote Index
October 2, 2023

Hello R Neil Haugen,

 

I think your proposed workflow is best and will give you most long term flexibility.

 

I suggest shooting 23.98p or 29.97p and doing a conversion at the end or their specific delivery requirements. (I haven't used AE to do conversions before.)

 

R.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
October 2, 2023

If they want interlaced > shoot interlaced.

Community Expert
October 2, 2023

You could shoot 59.94P