Syncing my 60min live performance video and the 60 mins of audio recorded by Ableton Live

Marcus,

I hate to say; these kinds of recordings can go wrong in a hurry if you don't have the right gear in place, and/or the workflow has not been tested ahead of time.

In the future, shoot with constant frame rate with whatever camera you choose.

It's better to shoot with a camera that you can take a feed from your audio board with.

Some simple adjustments to your workflow will help you succeed next time.

Since your transcode to a constant rate frame rate did not really work, I'm sorry that I have run out of suggestions for this situation. You may want to give that one more shot.

Sorry.

Thanks,
Kevin

Ok, so I did put my video through Handbrake to get a constant FPS.  I threw it back in Premiere and It's still way out of alignment.  What I don't understand is both files are about the same length, but the audio from both are so far off.  I've indicated in the picture at where a particular point of my performance and whee is lines up on each audio file.  They are like 15 mins apart.

How would I go about fixing that??  Am I missing something?? lol

I can get myself around basic video software.  But I'm familiar with Adobe Premiere Pro. 

The Good Audio that I'm want to use is the audio from Ableton Live.  I have already mastered that at 48khz 24bit wave.  So that's what's in the picture above and what I'm trying to sync the Video to.

The video is at 30fps.

I follow a Premiere Pro tutorial that after you merge your audio and video file to "Remove Audio from Video Clip".  But I still didn't

get what I was looking for. 

I will take a look at prores or dnxhd. 

It seems like the audio from the video file is so much more compressed when you look at the 24bit good audio file that I want to use.  It's like the Video file needs to be stretch in order to line up to the Good audio file.  

Hopefully getting a constant frame rate will help to line that up. 

Whatever suggestions you got, I'm willing to give it a try.  Thanks!

hmmm. are you very familiar with editing stuff in general ??  Or are you sorta starting out ?  Just would be nice to get idea how familiar you are to basic issues re: stuff.  Would be silly for me to suggest things you already know.

Just for starting out I would maybe make a decision about which sound you want to use. Either you use the in camera sound, or the discreet ( separate ) sound of ableton.  Sometimes you can combine the soundtracks to get specific stuff ( portions ) but mostly it's one or the other.

If you mute the camera sound ( audio 1 ) entirely getting rid of it … in terms of hearing it... and just work with the ableton sound, does it remotely stay in sync ?

I don't know the stuff you're using, but my first impression is that you might want to 'convert' both the video ( only the video) to a nice intermediate constant frame rate … that looks nice... if on mac use prores or dnxhd on pc. Or cineform.  whatever. You can unlink the video and audio that sucks ( cuts out in in ) and just delete that audio from the timeline IMO.

bring that back into a NEW project to your NLE ( the new video).  So that should nail down your video to one hour and specific frame rate ( say 30fps ? )

Then convert your ableton sound stuff to WAV ( using audition maybe ) to wav 48khz and save as a new file.

Put THAT into your audio 1 thing...

Now just work on what is happening between your new video and your new audio... and see what's going on ...

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I've downloaded Adobe Premiere and watched a few videos on syncing audio and video, but I'm still not able to sync it all correctly.

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describe this better. Are you able to sync it in the beginning, but as you play it back in PPro the sound gradually goes OUT of sync ?

when the sound from your source is put into timeline below your cine app video... are they both the exact same "Length of time " ??