Title Tool not updating / saving when making revisions

[CLCTV]

I've made a few Title's in Premiere Pro and saved them as templates to use through out my production. With CS6 I'm having some issues with it. I'll create a new Title file from a template and make the chages. Everything works fine for a while, but then the changes I make within the title tool do not save after exiting the title tool. The text just reverts back to the point were it stopped working. If I restart Premiere it works again, but only for a while. I think this is a bug, but if anybody has a solution please let me know. Thanks

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi Jef,

I'm not seeing the same thing. Are you speaking of titles not updating in a normal workflow? Can you try deleting preview files and report back if that situation improved?

Thanks,Kevin

[Jef Huey]

Hello Kevin.

Yes, this issue appears in what I would consider a normal workflow.  Let me try and give greater detail.  This is my best approximation of how the issue occurs:

I create a title and place in a sequence.  This becomes my "template" (not using any template tool).  I then duplicate that first title in it's bin, open that duplicated title and make changes, exit the title tool cut the new title into the sequence.  At some point I then go back to that second title while in the sequence, double click it to re-enter the title tool, make changes, exit and the changes that I saw while in the title tool are not present in the sequence.

This does not happen immediately during a session, but once it does occur, the only remedy is to exit premiere and restart.  After the restart, editing a title as described works.  For awhile anyway.  Then the problem crops up and a restart is required.

As for deleting the preview file, I am confused. When does a preview file get generated when using the title tool?  I am not manually selecting render of titles in the workflow I described.  So I do not know when it would be created.  Can you explain?

Thanks,

Jef

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi Jef,

For the second title, how are you creating it? Are you using "New Title Based On Current Title?"

Thanks,
Kevin

[Jef Huey]

Hi Kevin,

I guess I was not clear.  Sorry.

My first title is made by pressing Title / New Title / Default Still.

The second Title is made by selecting the first in it's bin and pressing Edit / Duplicate.  Not sure why I started doing that other than I have mapped Duplicate and that seemed to do what I wanted. 

I imagine you are going to tell me that "New Title Based On Current Title" is the correct way and my method is not correct.   Am I correct?

Jef

[connorh85931556]

Another person with the same issue.

I have tried everything I can think of. The original project was on 2015.3. I cleared all caches, cleared render files, made duplicate projects, tried opening the project on different machines, I updated to 2017, still no luck.

These titles were all created from templates.

[gavinj35677557]

Jef's description is exactly what I am experiencing too.

I am using Premiere Pro CC (2017.0.2 release) on a MacBook Pro (MacOS Sierra, 10.12.3).

I've just been trying to get it to happen and all was working perfectly for a while, until I changed the Slant value for the text. As soon as I reopen a title that has slanted text and I try to alter that value, it stops saving the changes. If I create a completely new title, all is fine, but when I close the title, nothing is saved, I have a black title. This is repeatable.

I hope that helps and gives some pointers as to where the problem might lie...

[Jef Huey]

Interesting.  I was not using slant when editing.  Mainly changing font size, kerning, position, etc.

Other oddities show up during editing which may or may not be related that I did not state as they may not be related.

Jef

[valerielina]

I am also having the same problem as everyone on the list. I have restarted premiere. I have created new titles from scratch. I duplicate as mentioned above. Adobe clearly can't find the issue and we are left paying for CC and trying to find our own work arounds. Is there a fix yet?

[Kevin-Monahan]

Hi Valerie Lina,

Can you try the new Type tool and see if that workflow works better for you?

Thanks,
Kevin

[overjupiter]

I think Adobe won't be fixing the glitch in the Legacy titler - but you might try using the new Title tool, which just came out recently.  Here is a good tutorial that explains the basics.  I found it's a better solution; the "Master Graphics" seem to retain settings.

[overjupiter]

Type Tool Tutorial:

Create Titles with the New Type Tool and Essential Graphics Panel in Premiere Pro CC 2017.1 (Spring)...

[Error72]

Not sure if this is still relevant but this worked for me when titles wouldn't update outside of the title tool. First I saved my settings as a Style and simply selected a different Style, after,  from the templates provided. Cycling between styles updated my text and it was once again responsive. 

[erich91291482]

I am still having this issue in CC 2018 (have had the issue off and on for years). Befoer, I was able to create a new title and then be able to edit it again, but it doesn't look like that works any mroe. Very frustrated as I've never used the new title tool (and I can't get it to work the way I used to). Why?!?!?! Am doing this as a volunteer project, and have dozens of titles to add ... ugh

[erich91291482]

UPDATE: Yet another thread clued me into: If I restart the program (holding Alt + Shift while doing so MAY clear media cache too?), I can then edit titles for a little while at least).