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November 20, 2024
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Transcript not showing up in sequence or matching back, even though it exists

  • November 20, 2024
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Premeire Productions

 

I have a sequence comprised of 6 multicam clips (synced cameras and audio).   The underlying production audio of those multicams (wave files) has been transcribed.   I can open each ave file in the soruce monitor and I see the transcript in the Text Panel.

 

But in my sequence, the sixth mulitcam has no transcript.   The transcript ends at the end of the 5th multicam.

 

If I match back, which loads multicam-6 into the source monitor I don't see any transcript.   If I reaveal the clip in the project and double click it to reload the clip into the source monitor the transcript suddenly appears.   

 

If I delete multicam-6 from my sequence and put it back in, the same behavior (no transcript) re-occurs.

 

What's going on?

17 replies

Known Participant
November 26, 2024

Sorry, I'm confused what you mean by the clip "without transcription".    How can it be both "the clip without transcription" and the clip in the bin with transcription?   

 

Also, the multicam clip is in the same project as the underlying audio clips.   It is only when it is in a sequence that it loses transcription.

 

I'm a little flummoxed by "consolidate duplicates", the mutlicam is in the same project as the master clips.     Another issue is the video clips and the audio clips are both transcribed.  Maybe that's causing issues with the mutlicam?   But there's no way to delete transcripts.

 

Honestly, Premiere transcription is a real chore with any sizeable project.  I have hundreds of transcribed sequences, so I kind of don't have time anymore to figure this out.   There should be a "fix transcript" tool or something.   It should also notice if a clip's transcript is not available.  Please note that it doesn't say "clip not transcribed" in my sequence, it just omits it from the transcript –– so there's no way for me to know the transcript is missing text.  That is catastrophic for documentary work.  sorry!

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 26, 2024

Hi @Ovidius9000 - After you did the Reassociate Clips step did you also do the next step of consolidating duplicates?  It sounds like the media references keep getting reverted to the clip without the transcription.

Known Participant
November 26, 2024

I tried re-associating and that didn't solve the problem.  The only thing that solves it is going back to the mutlicam clip and cutting it back into the sequence.   But this is the third time I've done that.

To review the issue:  I have a sequence of assembled mutlicams.  In the text panel one of the multicams keeps disappearing from the transcrit.  So in the seuqence multicam 4 shows transcript, multicam 6 shows transcript, but mutlicam 5 doesn't.  When paying the text window just sort of hovers where the transcript should be.

Matching back to source panel doesn't show transcript.  Matching back to multicam and loading it into the source panel DOES show the transcript.  It's as if Premiere has created two versions of the multi-cam, one in the sequence without a transcript and one in the bin with a transcript –– but they are the same clip!  i.e. there is no problem matching back to find it in the bin/project.

The only solution is to re-cut the multicam into the sequence.  But then, later, perhaps the next time I restart premiere (not sure) that transcript disappears.

jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 21, 2024

Hi @Ovidius9000 - Can you try selecting the multicam clip and navigate to edit in the menu bar then select "Reassociate Source clips" and select the project that the master clips are in.  and then select your project go back to the edit menu bar and select consolidate duplicates.  It seems like some references haven't been updated.

Known Participant
December 2, 2024

Ok, here's at least one way in which I'm able to recreate it.   

 

I have a Sequence of assembled clips (only the source clips are transcribed, in this case it is production audio).   The transcipt works fine.   Then I see an error in the transcription for Clip005, let's call it.   I cannot edit the transcript because I am in a sequence, not at the source clip.   So I double click on the audio track to bring up the source clip and load the production audio into the source monitor.  Now I see the transcript for the production audio and I can edit it.  I fix the erros in the transcription.  So far so good.

But now, I return to my sequence and the transcription is simply gone!  It doesn't say "no transcription", or "transcription error". It has just omitted 5 minutes of material.    I was able to open the underlying project with the production audio by double-clicking on the audi, so clearly the cips are associated correctly.    Why is this happening?

 

Now, if I close the project and re-open it – it seems to correct the transcript.  But that is CRAZY to me.  How can I trust anything if  Premiere will just erase transcripts without any notice?    If someone asks for a text export of a transcript, I now have to go and check every edit before feeling confident that it is actually complete.  Do you see why this is such a huge issue?

 

 

 

Stan Jones
Brainiac
December 2, 2024

@Ovidius9000,

 

Thanks, that's helpful. I am testing in a regular, not production, project, and I wonder if there are any differences in how this works. In my opinion, there should not be.

 

> cannot edit the transcript because I am in a sequence, not at the source clip.

You should be able to. When you enter edit mode in the transcript/sequence view, you should get a pop-up: "Text edits are also saved to the source clip."

 

But what you are doing should also work. And if you immediately click back to the sequence, you should see the edited transcript.

 

Stan

 

Known Participant
November 21, 2024

I should add (since I'm on Productions) this "source clip not showing transcript until reloaded" issue occurs even when the source project is open.  i.e. it is not happening because the source project is not open.  It happens when all projects are open. 

 

I think it happens even if the sequence and source clip are in the same project (but I'm not positive.  usually, in productions, they would be in separate projects).

Known Participant
November 21, 2024

MacOS 14.6.1 / Premier Pro 24.5.0 (Build 57)

 

I am working in a Premiere Production project. 

 

Though I'm not sure if I've had this specific issue (a sequence not showing underlying clip transcript) I have noticed a few times that when I match back from my sequence to a mulitcam clip, there will be no transcript.   But if I reveal the clip in the project and double click on it, the transcript will then show up.   It's strange because nothing else changes - in points, playhead, etc all are exactly the same – it just the act of "reloading" the clip that seems to inspire Premiere to show the transcript.


jamieclarke
Community Manager
Community Manager
November 21, 2024

Hi @Ovidius9000 -   Thanks for submitting your bug report. We need a few more details to try to help with the issue.  What are your computer specs?  What version of Premiere Pro are you on?