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Whats new in Adobe CS6 Production Premium? Im glad you asked!

Forum|Forum|13 years ago
April 12, 2012
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CS6 will surprise and delight everyone here. PrP and AE have worked on the basics and added new tools. I am so excited to see everyones reaction at NAB this year.

http://success.adobe.com/en/na/programs/events/1203_16108_nab.html

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Felix L Radinger

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i've read the new fature list and it talks about the new zoom and navigation bar in the source monitor...
my question is: will there be a (customizable) keyboard shortcut for zooming (time, not picture) in and out within the source time like in the timeline?
/Would be a great help with audio source clips, i hate using mmy mouse ;-)

Also i've seen the BEAUTIFUL new Audio Meter and i love it, finally bigger and also horizontal! whoever brought this one in from Audition, tell them to come to Vienna,

the next round's on me!

...and keep smiling.

Wil Renczes

Adobe Employee

"will there be a (customizable) keyboard shortcut for zooming (time, not picture) in and out within the source time like in the timeline?"

Yep, +/- keys will zoom in/out the range of the nav bar in the source window when it has focus.

Cheers

Felix L Radinger

Participating Frequently

Felix,

I'm in Vienna at least once per year, so I'll take that round on behalf of my colleagues who worked on the audio improvements in Premiere Pro CS6. ;-)

I actually recorded these movies about the audio improvements only ~200km from Vienna:

http://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/changes-in-audio-tracks-and-merged-clip-audio

http://www.video2brain.com/en/lessons/changes-to-the-audio-mixer-and-audio-meters-panels

(the forums look odd tonight)

Todd, please do contact me, the next time you're around, i'd be happy to drink a round or two on behalf of your colleagues and with you!

And i hoped, i could actually stand a round in person! So Do give me the opportunity.

-great new audio features, wonderful workspace (for us guys with the fancy colorful keyboards ;-) )

i already ordered.

but:

(i never thought i could ever remotely quote renée zellweger):
"you already had me at global performance cache "

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and keep smiling

...and keep smiling.

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Shadreck Rukweza

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Does anyone know if Encore is now able to display estimated time of completion during the build progress. Currently it can only display estimated time when writing the Image etc? This is quite for Dynamic Link users to know the estimated time during the transcoding.

wonderspark

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Two things interest me at this point:

1) Through May 6th, you can buy 5.5 for $399 and get CS6 for free, whereas if you upgrade direct from CS5 to CS6, it's $749. Why is it $350 more to upgrade once? Is $350 the value of Adobe's annoyance for skipping a half-level, or is this an unintended loophole?

2) SpeedGrade specifically lists the Quadro 4000 as optimal, yet every other program in the suite lists the GTX 285 as supported for GPU acceleration. What is the difference in performance in GPU acceleration between a Quadro 4000 and GTX 285?

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TradeWind

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1) Through May 6th, you can buy 5.5 for $399 and get CS6 for free, whereas if you upgrade direct from CS5 to CS6, it's $749. Why is it $350 more to upgrade once? Is $350 the value of Adobe's annoyance for skipping a half-level, or is this an unintended loophole?

Adobe has usually allowed people who purchased right before the announcement/release of a new version to receive the free upgrade. They do this as a favor, not as a sales promotion. While there are certainly plenty of people who take advantage of it as a sales promotion (and Adobe is fine with that), it's much more about making sure that people who had no idea a new version was around the corner don't get stuck.

As for the difference in price for upgrades, users are given a progressively better discount depending upon how up-to-date they have stayed with their software. Again, you're looking at it the wrong way. It's NOT about Adobe punishing users for not staying up to date, it's about REWARDING users who have. I think most would agree that it's reasonable to expect a loyalty discount of some sort, and the greater your loyalty, the greater your reward. It's not a punishment. If you didn't previously upgrade to CS5.5 when it came out, then you still saved money overall by making the choice that suited you best.

2) SpeedGrade specifically lists the Quadro 4000 as optimal, yet every other program in the suite lists the GTX 285 as supported for GPU acceleration. What is the difference in performance in GPU acceleration between a Quadro 4000 and GTX 285?

The difference is between "supported" and "optimal." The actual real-world difference? Guess we could possibly get some test results from the Adobe folks later today, or maybe someone will do a comparison. If you are chiefly concerned with grading your footage in SpeedGrade and need the best possibly acceleration and use 2k, 3k or 4k footage, then you probably want the best performing card you can get, which would be the optimal one listed for SpeedGrade. If you want a card that is also going be supported for MPE, be sure it's listed in the other apps (in this case the Quadro 4000).

The GTX 285 is a relatively old card at this point that only meets the minimum specs for hardware MPE accelaration. I own a GTX 470 and have been satisfied with that level of performance. If you are shopping for a GPU, a GTX 285 might be quite difficult to find these days. A GTX 470 might also be getting rare. The new 500 series GTX cards should be pretty good, and might be all you need. (If you are on the Mac, I realize that Apple has somewhat limited your choices, so you may just want to go with the 4000 for best results across the board).

wonderspark

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I see how that makes sense in regards to the upgrade. It's just interesting to see this little window of opportunity pop up like this.

I've seen some comparisons between the GTX 285 vs. Quadro 4000, and it actually showed the GTX 285 doing a lot better due to double the bandwidth and 512-bit vs. 256-bit of the Quadro 4000. Since I *am* still on a Mac, I'm limited in my choices while using Snow Leopard. The interesting thing there is that in recent updates to Lion, it seems I can use the GTX 580 or other cards as well. I currently have a 5870 and a GTX 285, and I'm trying to make good choices moving forward. Eventually, I'll have to update my OS software anyway, so I'm wondering if I should try to keep up the Mac Pro, or cut my losses and build a new PC.

With Creative Cloud, I'm wondering how performance is affected when the internet is down.

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Bengaldad

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Can anyone who has had a chance to see Adobe's Premiere Pro CS6 tell me if it will now allow the MVC footage from the Sony HDR-TC10 3D camcorder to be ingested? This camera shoots in full 1080p 3D in the MVC format. I have been submitting feature requests for this to be added to Premiere Pro for about a year now. Currently I am having to edit this footage in Cyberlink's Power Director 10 and in Vegas Pro 11. I much prefer to edit in Premiere Pro which runs very fast and well on my Mac Pro, but Premiere Pro CS5.5 will not import the MVC footage.

Tom

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taz291819

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Can a beta tester please test something for me?

Take some interlaced footage, either SD or HD, and export it as H.264 interlaced (not the Blu-Ray preset, just the normal H.264 preset, as the Blu-Ray preset actually works correctly in CS5.5). Does the output look ok, or does it drop half the fields (like de-interlacing)? If you look at round objects, it should be smooth, not jagged (like an aliasing artifact).

Many thanks!

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Shadreck Rukweza

Participating Frequently

taz291819 wrote:
Can a beta tester please test something for me?

Can someone explain how superior Adobe transmit work in CS6?

Wil Renczes

Adobe Employee

srukweza wrote:
Can someone explain how superior Adobe transmit work in CS6?

Sure. If you've used any 3rd party i/o solution with PPro in earlier releases, you'll know that each 3rd party had their own 'editing mode', and for any broadcast monitoring to work, you had to be using one of their editing modes. There were several drawbacks from this - some things would perform worse in a 3rd party sequence whereas that wouldn't occur in native Adobe sequences, or the source/program monitor playback behaviour would be inconsistent, or you couldn't bounce those projects to another system without the hardware for editing; CUDA wouldn't work as well in 3rd party sequences, etc, etc. Also, the older SDK model was a lot more complicated for the 3rd parties.

In a nutshell, what we did was simplify everything tremendously in this release. Now, you always use Adobe native sequences; no 3rd party editing mode required. Also, whatever you get on the program monitor is what you get out of Mercury Transmit; if you're using CUDA (or OpenCL on the newly supported macs), you get all that realtime goodness reflected out through your i/o card too. It's also a lot simpler for the 3rd party developers too, as the Transmit SDK is a much simpler model to support.

The other cool thing is that it means that Adobe can support the same 3rd party transmit plugin in several apps. I believe Prelude, PPro, and Encore already all support Transmit; I'm not sure about AE or Audition at this present moment. Todd might know on that front.

Cheers

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Prizm4

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I'd like to know if the plugin system for PP CS6 has been updated at all? The only thing I saw in regards to plugins was that you can double-click to add one. Was anything else done? For instance, with Vegas you can copy a plugin and other settings from one clip and paste those settings in any additional clips you like. Instead of dragging the same plugin to every single clip and changing all the parameters again.

Also have any of the transitions or plugins been updated? What about text effects?

Also, what about overlapping clips on the timeline in a non-destructive manner, like Vegas? Making easy crossfades, etc.

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TradeWind

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Copying and pasting effects from one clip to others has been possible for quite some time (since Premiere Pro 1.0 I believe...about 9 years ago)

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Prizm4

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"Copying and pasting effects from one clip to others has been possible for quite some time (since Premiere Pro 1.0 I believe...about 9 years ago)"

Sorry, I meant copying and pasting transitions, not plugins.

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taz291819

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Does anyone know if the exporting interlaced video as h.264 bug has been fixed?

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Islanders66

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I'll be upgrading for Speed Grade. I wonder if the adjustment layers and custom buttons will function like Avid's?

I'm hoping they have some kind of shortcut to add transitions without having to drag them from the effects panel. If you could assign them a custom button that would be a huge time saver.

Otherwise having to upgrade every year or two is kind of expensive!

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TradeWind

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I'm hoping they have some kind of shortcut to add transitions without having to drag them from the effects panel. If you could assign them a custom button that would be a huge time saver.

You can now double-click an effects and it will add it to all selected clips on the timeline. That's a new feature to CS6. However, there have always been shortcuts for the default transitions for audio tracks and video tracks, and you can specify what the default transitions are (as well as the default duration). That functionality has been around for almost a decade in Premiere Pro. As far as I know, there are no shortcut options beyond the default transition (which, again, you can select from ANY transitions).

Otherwise having to upgrade every year or two is kind of expensive!

Yeah, it is, but if you're using it as a basis for your employment - or self-employment - then it should only require a couple of gigs to pay it off, and usually the features in each version do help to justify the upgrade cost in terms of time savings alone (Mercury certainly paid for itself in my books, very quickly, too).

There's also the Creative Cloud option where you can pay-as-you-go, only subscribing for the software on those months where you know you will need it for a certain project or projects. If you're not using the software frequently, that may be your best option.

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Islanders66

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Christian Jolly, did you not read my first sentance where I plan to upgrade for SpeedGrade? Or did you forget that by the end of my post?

As I said the abilty to apply a custom transition to a button like you can in Avid would be huge. I'm aware of applying defult transitons, changing the default duration, etc. Still, I would like to see more options for saving preset transitions and the ability to apply them. I don't think this is a lack of comprehention on my part, as your post implies, but a lack of function on the progrmas part, or is there some way to save preset transitions that I"m not aware of?

I understand the increased productivity with each upgrade. I just bought this less than a year ago and already time to upgrade before I've been able to pay for the software. I think people will need to consider the accelerated upgrade cost when trying to get started. Maybe have a break on the first upgrade within a year of purchase, but it's more important to you for Adobe to make more millions than for the little guy to catch a break every now and then?

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Toomany3-KEeYrp

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I hope I just missed it, but please tell me we can use more than 4 cameras in multi-cam like every other pro editor out there. We've been holding out on this for years.