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joeh87907460
Inspiring
December 10, 2019
Question

why is "Change output size to match source" greyed out

  • December 10, 2019
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When exporting a NON standard sized video, why can't you export it WITOUT the black bars on all sides? What I want to do is crop a portion of a video and export it to that specific size. It's not the same size every time and no 'preset' is ever that size so 'scaling' won't work either. In the export window, I can crop it to the size I want it to be in the "source" tab, then in the output tab the option to "Change output size to match source" is greyed out and not avaliable. None of the other options works as they all produce a video with black bars, either on all sides or on each side. I need to know what to set in order to force the option to "Change output size to match source" to be avaliable. 

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Participant
July 1, 2020

I faced the same issue! Try clicking on AVI for format and then try, worked for me!

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 11, 2019

I see. Thanks for the clarifications, a very interesting look at re-using things.

 

As to the change from horizontal to vertical ... you can do that withing Premiere using the Effects/VideoEffects/Transform/Reframe option recently added. It automatically resets a chosen proportion and will go through and using Adobe's AI tool, choose how and what to track in the new 'frame'

 

You can then go into the tracking and change any parts as needed.

 

But for the others ... no, there's not a way to get just a "clean" no border export without creating the settings or reusing presets for them.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
joeh87907460
Inspiring
December 11, 2019

I was hoping there would be a better way. I remember doing something similar several years ago in an older copy of premiere pro, and was able to use the option to "Change output size to match source" in the output tab. I have no idea why they left it in the option menu since it's never avaliable to use. That just doesn't make sense to have an option that nobody is allowed to use anymore. Adobe needs to fix this and make it so that you can just crop and export at that cropped size without the black borders. That would be easy to do if they wanted to.

 

Thanks for trying to help, I appreciate it.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 11, 2019

Change output size to match source is only available for certain formats.

Your source is set in your sequence setting and not the cropped image.

If you want to crop on export you need to set that manually.

 

Peru Bob
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 11, 2019

" I don't think pixel dimensions would affect what I'm wanting to do, square pixels would work perfectly fine as the shape is rectangle, not an odd shape with curves or anything"

 

The export size, ie: 1920 X 1080, not the pixel aspect ratio, which is what you used as an example, is what Neil was refering to.

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 10, 2019

By pixel dimensions per side, I was only referring to the number of pixels. Not their aspect ratio, a very different thing.

 

What do you deliver these for? I'm curious, as I've never seen anyone with a similar output concept before. One of the fascinations of the craft is there are so many different ways to approach this. So many different uses. I love learning about different processes and workflow patterns and needs.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
joeh87907460
Inspiring
December 11, 2019

Thanks for clearing that up about pixel dimensions, I didn't quite understand what you meant by that. I don't use them for anything special, but from time to time I'd like to be able to save a small clip of a portion of a video to pop up over a video to make a point. Or to cut out the sides of a video that was shot in portrait mode instead of landscape mode then exported with a background in say 1920 X 1080 to get rid of the background, or black bar sides. I know you can mask out what you don't want in premiere when you do this, but if you use the same clips in more than one video you have to do it over and over and over however many times you use the clips. If you just are able to export the clips in the size and format you want, without the black bars or background it would save lots of steps and repetitive work down the road. 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 10, 2019

You couldn't actually use a crop and get an export exactly of that shape/dimensions/pixels in reality. Most format/codec combos have rules for things like what pixel dimensions they can use. Especially common is for a limit on the divisibility of the frame-size. Some will allow any numbers, but most require divisibity by 2,4, or 8 as part of their compression process.

 

So a format/codec that say requires every frame-size number be divisible by 8 will not allow a dimension of 1534. The closest would be 1536 pixels on a side.

 

If you are making routine exports to particular dimensions, you only need set them once. Then make a preset for that dimension. Select the preset when needed. Done. No more clicks than using an included preset.

 

Neil

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
joeh87907460
Inspiring
December 10, 2019

This is what I'm talking about. It's too many steps to take. What you're describing is sort of a "one size fit's all" approach and that isn't what I need because it just won't work. Something that fits "most" won't work for everything. (for me, I find that things that "fits most" never fits what I want) I'm not asking about pixel dimensions, I don't think pixel dimensions would affect what I'm wanting to do, square pixels would work perfectly fine as the shape is rectangle, not an odd shape with curves or anything. To accomplish what I want, these are the steps I have to take. And it's really quite comical when you think about it that so many steps have to be taken for such a trivial task as this.

 

 

It should be so that you can just set the crop, then export it to that size without black bars, without all these steps.

Ann Bens
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 10, 2019

Post screenshot of export settings with the left tab to output with an image (not black)

 

If it is non standard you can crop the image in the export settings in the left tab under source.

joeh87907460
Inspiring
December 10, 2019

Hello Ann,

This is an example I made, not the video I was asking about. I fixed that by subtracting the cropped dimensions from the original dimensions then resetting the video size then exporting it. A lot of unnecessary steps to do if you have to do this on a regular basis. I already deleted the original source files for that video. So I captured a bit of video to make this example from a comercial on tv. You can see that the option to "Change output to match source" is greyed out. 

 

 

What I need to know is how to just drag the crop to the portion I want in the source tab then export the video to that that size without any black bars on any side. Without having to subtract the difference, and "do the math" and then change anything in the "Basic Video Settings" before exporting the video. 
One should be able to do it just by draging the crop to size in the 'Source' tab, then choose "Change output size to match source" in the 'Output' tab and export it without have to figure out a specific size and then change values elsewhere. That is slow and tedious.