Will legacy titles remain in previous versions of Premiere Pro?

[defaultqwrqzir0s993]

When will legacy titles be retired? And will they remain in previous versions of Adobe Premiere? All of my projects have a ton of right to left text, which as I understand will not be converted, not to mention the fact that I can't even type Hebrew vowel markings in essential graphics titles so I will have to type everything out in a word document and then copy and paste it into Adobe. I am pretty stressed out about all of this to put it mildly...

[R Neil Haugen · Accepted solution]

With the inclusion of that "tool" to auto-migrate (kinda sorta) Legacy Titles to graphics, and Sr. Product Manager Francis Crossman talking in the introduction demo vid for Pr2022 that this is a not too subtle hint they're going to be gone soon ... I don't know if the Legacy Titler will make the end of the 2022 cycle.

For certain, I wouldn't expect it to be in 2023.

They would continue to work in older versions. As long as your computer with them doesn't have to be wiped/new OS installed, you could continue with them.

But ... are you certain about the problems with right-to-left text? I know Eran Stern is a noted teacher of the entire mogrts thing designed in Ae for deployment in Pr. And he's based in Israel too, I believe. He's got a ton of stuff on the Adobe MAX channels, the 2020 and 2021 MAX were free to all, you can still go view those. And is on LinkedInLearning and YouTube and everywhere.

See if he can get you some advice.

Neil

[defaultqwrqzir0s993]

Wow I just saw this now. Thank you so much for your exhaustive answer! Even if my computer did need to be wiped isn't it possible to reinstall older versions? Thanks again!

[Steve Griffiths · Accepted solution]

Unfortunately only the current version of Premiere Pro (2022) and also Premiere Pro 2021 are available for download.

Adobe 'retire' downloadable versions of anything prior to the past years version. So you can't download the 2020 version for example (or earlier).

When the next major version is released (2023?) then 2021 will become unavailable for download.

So don't delete older versions that you have, that you might need.

I wish this was not the case. I have various computers with versions of Premiere Pro going back to 2015 just in case!

[defaultqwrqzir0s993]

Thanks for the info!

[defaultqwrqzir0s993]

Sorry for the silly question but I'm assuming the current version would be safe even if I need to wipe my computer if I have my computer backed up?

[R Neil Haugen]

The way their 'installing' process works, if the 'backup' allows you to simply run the backup, then operate the OS and  all apps like nothing happened, yes. If you have to reload anything ... maybe/probably not.

Neil

[Media Editor]

Davinci Resolve lets you download many previous versions.  Why does Premiere retire so many of the previous versions?

[R Neil Haugen]

As they've stated on numerous blogs and such ... first, there are licenses involved in all the CC apps, and those change over time. The companies owning the licensed bits change, and change their interests and behaviors. They find it easier to simply 'sunset' the apps than maintail licensing relationships.

Second, if any version is still "available", users will be demanding that it be updated to be supported on new hardware and media. Which takes a fair amount of effort to mod an old program with much outdated code. They'd rather not spend the effort there.

So, that's the official explanation. For example, on the licensing issue, Dolby Labs got legal about things and hit Adobe with a massive lawsuit a few years back. They accused Adobe of not properly stating how many users there were for PrPro. And demanded that they be given access to Adobe's internal accounting system on a daily basis to check.

Adobe corporate said very little about the whole thing, but that's when the previous versions thing crashed down. From reading a lot of online articles, I think the claims from D-L were absurdly overstating the user base of PrPro. But even if they weren't, I've been in business over 40 years myself. Ain't no freaking way in Hades I would ever let someone who deals daily with all the competition have unfettered password/security clearances into my accounting. Ain't happening here.

And they'd already had the licensing issue with the company who held the patents for the DVD authoring process used by Encore. That company had bought out the previous owners, and well, wanted to make optical media go buh-bye, so they weren't interested in keeping up the licensing agreement.

So with that already out there (that we know of), and the Dolby situation, it seems likely Adobe corporate just decided that was enough legal garbage to deal with and shut things down.

Neil