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Can't 'undo' / un-tick SetToFrameSize any more!?

Engaged ,
Dec 24, 2024 Dec 24, 2024

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Welcome to this week's "Premiere updates that broke something which worked perfectly":

I used to be able to select a bunch of clips in my timeline > Right click or KeyboardShortcut > Set To Frame Size. This would make 4K clips (for example) in my 1080p sequence shrink so they say "50%" in Effect Controls...perfect for most of the clips, except the ones I want to crop into (up to 200% losslessly, thanks to them being 4K. This is literally the main benefit of 4K workflows).

Now the ability to 'undo' the Set To Frame Size is GONE. Yet somehow we have a THIRD option now.. How did this get so complicated and yet somehow completely remove the main feature we needed?

There's no way to untick Set To Frame Size (sorry - just checked and it's actually renamed now to Fit To Frame, by which Adobe meant 'Shrink To Frame' because there's now a 'Fill To Frame' which means 'Expand To Frame' and the third option is 'Scale To Frame Size'...oh my gosh.... what a mess.)

 

Please just return everything to how it was. It was perfect before. With just 2 options. Or at LEAST make Shrink To Frame Size a toggle/ ticked or unticked thing in the menu like it used to be, so I don't have to individually go through tons of clips I shrunk in my sequence and manually go to Effect Controls and one by one type into the Scale field "100%" for all the ones I want to return to original size... Aurgh.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 24, 2024 Dec 24, 2024

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Moved to Ideas board as its not a bug but by design.

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Community Expert ,
Dec 24, 2024 Dec 24, 2024

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It's just something that takes some getting used to.

Fit to Frame is like the old Set to Frame size - 100% of your clip/image will be displayed

Fill Frame is new, it will fill the frame and you will get a natural crop on the the sides or top/bottom depending on your aspect ratios

And you can click the little round-ish arrow on the on the Scale item in the Effects Control Panel. (which is curiously missing on the Properties panel, save for resetting the entire Transform)

 

 

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Community Expert ,
Dec 24, 2024 Dec 24, 2024

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BTW: You can even create a quick animation for scale by setting say on the beginning of the clip select "Fit" and drop a keyframe, go to the end of the clip and select "Fill" and done!

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Community Expert ,
Dec 24, 2024 Dec 24, 2024

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<<up to 200% losslessly, thanks to them being 4K>>

BTW: It's up to 100% losslessly - twice as big so to speak.

Once you scale anything past it's own 100% you would start to loose some quality.

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Engaged ,
Dec 28, 2024 Dec 28, 2024

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I disagree. As I explained, there's now no longer any way to change (in one keyboard shortcut) a shrunken clip back to 100% actual size again if it's bigger than the sequence. And this is one of the main reasons to shoot 4K/ higher res.

 

To explain again - Put 4K clips in a 1080p timeline (so you can losslessly 'crop in' as countless vloggers and filmmakers do) and if they're shrunk to fit the smaller 1080p frame (thanks to import settings, or manually batch selecting them all and applying Shrink to frame or whatever they've changed the name to) you now cannot put it back again with a single keystroke like we used to. We have to manually one by one go through each and every clip, go to Effect controls and adjust the size back up to 100%. 

 

Please do tell me if I've missed something. Hopefully now you've understood where I'm coming from.

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Yes, you're right I should've clarified I meant 4K is "200%" of the 1080p frame size; indeed it will show "100%" in the Effect controls > Scale field

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Dec 28, 2024 Dec 28, 2024

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OK, I'll accept you were perturbed when you wrote the original post. But <<This is literally the main benefit of 4K workflows>>. I'm gonna say it's a 1080p workflow, but with the benefit of shooting in 4k. I agree on that, that's what I do for the most part. The next was: <<by which Adobe meant 'Shrink To Frame'>>. No, Adobe meant Fit to Frame, drop in a 720p clip to your project and which option would you need. It would be Fit, not Shrink. Adobe to their credit, is trying to make a distinction from Scale to... trying to get people  to use the better option Fit to... Fill frame does scale up a bit but your description <<'Expand To Frame'>> is only in relationship to Fit to... So, yours is not as universal / standalone.

 

Finally, you can reset the scaling for all selected clips or just one without typing in 100% for each clip. Select all clips you want reset, and right-click the (the word) "Scale" in the properties panel, and Reset.

 

OK, good now or?

 

 

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