Display audio waveforms for nested audio clips

I have had instance where muting all tracks except one within the nest does not produce a waveform at the master level- even after rendering audio. Example: A two camera interview (XDCAM 422) with two tracks of audio for each video clip. I align the clips, nest them and then go into the nest and mute three tracks leaving only one active. When I jump back to the nest the waveform does not show up consistently. I've had times where it does and times where it doesn't within the same project.

For me, I resolved it. Step in in the timeline- waveform and found mute or empty tracks. delete them. And boom fix

Adobe, please just give us the option to draw the waveforms on nested sequences.

You can warn us, or whatever, but with modern machines, redrawing a waveform does not take very long at all, surely.

But not having waveforms in nested sequences makes it more difficult for us. Especially when editing audio.

Hi Phil,
I found your feature request after experiencing the same issue, but after reading Adobe's explanation I see the feature already exists.

I had a nest without waveform drawn, and after running an audio render the nest DID get a peak file (that is representative of its contents) and its waveform appeared.
I was also able to confirm what they said, that if things are kept simple enough inside the nest, the nest's waveform will draw without any rendering.

Are you not seeing that behavior?

Hi Phil,

I logged a feature request on your behalf: Add ability to render audio on all nested sequences at the project panel level.

Thanks for your reply Mike!

I understand the issue that the peak files are drawn for audio clips on import and a nest containing multiple mixed audio clips doesn't have a peak file generated for it. I guess what I'm asking is for the software to generate a peak file for nests that IS representative of their contents.

Maybe when the render audio command is performed Premiere could generate peak files for nests in the sequence and/or project?

Hi Phil,
We can only display the peak files that have already been drawn (for every imported audio clip) if the source channels and the track item have a 1:1 relationship (no mixing). In most cases with nested audio, some type of audio mixing has occurred (unless you have taken care to pan source channels so they pass source to output in a 1:1 fashion).

If any audio in the nested track item requires mixing to the master channels, we have no choice but to not display waveforms since the existing waveforms already created would not be a true representation of the nested clip.

If you are still not seeing any waveforms after rendering the outside of the nest then there may be another issue. If that is the case, can you please describe the source sequence track types and panning as well clip audio channel types and clip panning and finally the master channel type? Thanks!

To clarify, individual clips inside a nest or subsequence display waveforms just fine. The feature I'm looking for is for nest and subsequences that are edited into another sequence to display a waveform for their audio contents, instead of having to step in to the nest to examine waveforms.

Audio is rendered both inside and outside of the nest, still no waveforms.

Render the Audio to see the waveforms.