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December 6, 2023
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Match Frame to Source Sequence

  • December 6, 2023
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When cutting from a Source Sequence, it would be great to be able to match frame to that same frame in the Source Sequence (not to the original clip).

 

For example, if I have a series of 20 resets in my source, and I am not sure which one I used in the cut, all I need to do is use this 'FIND FRAME IN SOURCE SEQ' command to take me exactly to that point. Then I can see what else I might want to use and try that as an alt.

 

Sure, I could do that from the original clip but:

- then I'd have to get back to the source sequence.

- I also wouldn't have a way of marking things on the Source Sequence (which is the whole point of stringouts)

34 replies

Mathias Moehl
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 15, 2023

Good to see you here in the thread, @Ivan Stepanov! I wanted to say that there is no proper way offered by Premiere to use keyboard shortcuts. So the only way to solve the problem is a "dirty" hack. What do you think about adding a feature to Excalibur to execute Automation Blocks tools? I think two places where users manage keyboard shortcuts is enough 🙂 

Mathias Möhl - Developer of tools like BeatEdit and Automation Blocks for Premiere Pro and After Effects
Ivan Stepanov
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December 15, 2023

Sir Mathias, I pray thee, 'tis not dirty my hands are clean!

Excalibur listens for a shortcut press just to solve a problem.

cdavid1760
Known Participant
December 15, 2023

One can contact Ivan Stepanov here. He's very responsive. https://knightsoftheeditingtable.com/about

cdavid1760
Known Participant
December 15, 2023

One can contact Ivan Stepanov here. He's very responsive. https://knightsoftheeditingtable.com/about

Mathias Moehl
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 11, 2023

Excalibur uses a dirty workaround: It monitors your keyboard in the background, which has undesired side-effects. It does not know, for example, if a popup dialog is currently open (in which case all keyboard input should go into that dialog and keyboard shortcuts should not fire). I really want to avoid implementing such a dirty hack. That would give you three separate places where you would need to configure your shortcuts (Pr itself, Excalibur and Automation Blocks) and two keyboard monitoring processes in the background.
But with the CEP events provided by Automation Blocks, it should be absolutely doable for Excalibur to execute Automation Blocks tools with CEP events. Maybe you can send the developer of Excalibur a feature request for that? 

Mathias Möhl - Developer of tools like BeatEdit and Automation Blocks for Premiere Pro and After Effects
Legend
December 11, 2023

@Mathias Moehl  Excalibur is an extension that does appear to have access to keyboard shortcuts - not sure how I can get it to run an automation blocks script though.

cdavid1760
Known Participant
December 11, 2023

Would Excalibur be useful in creating shortcuts for this?

Mathias Moehl
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 10, 2023

@Trevor_Asq :

In After Effects,  Automation Blocks tools can be executed with keyboard shortcuts, but in Premiere Pro not. The reason is that Premiere Pro does not allow extensions to register keyboard shortcuts, unfortunately.

 

Also, the tools cannot run permanently in the background. I think Premiere Pro does not allows this to extensions, since they could impact the performance quite a lot.

 

There is one other solution to execute Automation Blocks tools in addition to loading and running them in the Automation Blocks user interface: Other extensions can send events to Autoamtion Blocks and ask it to run a particular tool. So if you have custom automations already, Automation Blocks can be integrated seamlessly: https://docs.mamoworld.com/automation-blocks/executeScriptsCEPEvents

Mathias Möhl - Developer of tools like BeatEdit and Automation Blocks for Premiere Pro and After Effects
Legend
December 10, 2023

No problem @Mathias Moehl 

 

Couple more questions:

Seems like you can only have one function loaded to 'run' at a time?

 

Ideally I'd be able to use keyboard shortcuts to run different functions.

 

Secondly I assume you can't have a function constantly running? eg (once you can read state of track lights) to emulate avid's autopatch?

 

 

Mathias Moehl
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 9, 2023

@Trevor_Asq this is very good feedback!

Currently, the Automation Blocks UI does not support a dropdown for sequences, unfortunately. You can create a dropdown of texts, but there is no way to populate this with the sequences. Same for loading something in the source monitor - it is not supported, yet.

 

Also Automation Blocks cannot "see" yet, which tracks are enabled. I had this request several times during the last weeks, so it is likely that I will add this at some point. Bottom line: We just have the first release of Autoamtion Blocks and this release has pretty comprehensive coverage of managing project items, but with sequences and tracks, there are still some gaps. Your feedback is really helpful, since it helps me to decide, which features are most wanted such that I can give them priority.

Mathias Möhl - Developer of tools like BeatEdit and Automation Blocks for Premiere Pro and After Effects