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Move Captions to the bottom of the screen

Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It would be useful to be able to move the captions all the way to the bottom of the screen.
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Adobe Employee , Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023
This is by design. We always keep captions within safe margins (10%). Would an option to defeat this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together. Opinions welcome.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Keeping captions and subtitles within safe margins derives from broadcast type situations. Then again in broadcast there is usually completely separate workflows for captioning and subtitles. I suspect majority of captioning and subtitling done in Premiere is made for different social media platforms and there a hard limit of 10% to safe margins does not make sense. Please let editors decide for themselves. Maybe you can add a checkbox for broadcast users to enable the hard stops at safe margins.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please remove it as soon as possible. Safe margins are nice for orientation but they should never limit the freedom of creativity. Right now it may be suitable for broadcast editors but for almost everyone else the caption tool is utterly useless.
While we're at it: please let me toggle on two subtitle tracks simultaneously. I don't want Premiere to decide stuff like this for me. As a rule of thumb: Options are always better!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Yes, please remove the limitations, as they are out of date and only aply to broadcast. (and everyone who works for broadcast should know what they are doing)

Thank you!

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please give us back the creative freedom! We have projects with a special display situation where we can control the screen visibility. For that our customer requires us to move the subtitles to the very edge of the screen.
We can do it with all other essential graphics elements. So why not with subtitles?
As soon as you enter a position value >0 it would be ok if Premiere gives a warning, but lets you proceed. Or you could add a "restrict to safe margins" checkbox that we can uncheck if needed.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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@Francis Crossman Yes. I also attached a screenshot of my current workflow. Even shared a recording explaining why do we need this change. It would be great if this change is made at the earliest. Many thanks!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Can we AT LEAST get another response from Adobe about this suggestion? It's ridiculous that there has been no acknowledging the amount of feedback that has been given. FIFTY FIVE COMMENTS, all of which are in support of removing the restriction.
Not to mention, if 100% of the comments are in support of removing it, there's no doubt many many more users not involved in this conversation that are wanting the restriction removed too.
Every time I get an email about comments made on this thread, and others, that are just people literally begging Adobe to even acknowledge their feedback about something, it makes me lose even more faith in the company (not that I have much at this point anyway, but.)

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Can you give us an update as to when you think you might defeat this restriction or remove the safeguard altogether? A LOT of people in my organization would start using Premiere Pro day one for captioning if this happens!

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Custom positioning of captions? Are you crazy?! Think of the damage it could cause! If anyone from 1997 were to watch a video CD of my captions below the safe margin, they would be out of luck! Do you think you can just put captions wherever you want as if you're a video creator!? Jim!!! You mad man.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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With the explosion of social media videos and so many mixed format videos there are a lot of instances where it's necessary to move the captions out of the 16x9 safe margins. I understand the instinct to make sure it's broadcast safe, but I think it would be sufficient to just have some sort of warning for the user rather than completely limit their ability to move the captions down.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It would be useful to have an option to defeat this restriction if needed!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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That is a really silly design. You think your users are unable to determine where the best placement of their titles are?

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It's so crazy. I have to position 2 lines of subtitles (German and English) in two font formats (bold and italic) at the bottom of the screen. Neither I can burn in two subtitle tracks at the same time, nor one I can position subtitle track at the bottom of the screen. I have to export the lower subtitel with green screen, import it again, key it and place it at the bottom. Thank you ADOBE.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Hey Mr. Crossman. Any news you can share on giving the user full control of the placement of the captions? Thanks!!!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please, we need to remove this limitation Mr Crossman !! Here is an SOS from France !!!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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The man who made this permanent restriction is just an idiot.
This is my design (attached). Now, what should I do????? I can't switch to the new version of the premiere because of this. It is frustrating that you remove the best options available in the older versions.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Hey Mr. Crossman. Any news you can share on giving the user full control of the placement of the captions? Thanks!!!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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The newest Premiere Pro update, released today, adds quite a bit of features to the captions settings.
And yet..... This frustrating restriction is still sitting on "Needs more info", instead of being actually considered for the caption updates.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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My God! This "by design" thing is just dumb! So now I have to do only what Adobe let me? Mr Crossman, please fix this! If I want to move the subtitles to the border of the frame OR EVEN OUT OF IT, I shoud do it without any problems.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Hello Adobe/Francis.

Please allow us to place subtitles where our clients want them.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It'd be helpful to at least have an option to disable the margin locks when needed. Coming from a social ad agency, most of our content ends up on social media platforms, not TV broadcast. We have clients that require captions below the title safe margins.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I think its safe to say by now that no single editor appreciates the restriction in placing the captions.
I would probably have a button for turn on or off the safe guard and have it off by default.
Also the box should be independent than the text and unlocked for the X and Y scaling.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Hey Mr. Crossman. Any news you can share on giving the user full control of the placement of the captions? Thanks!!!

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Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Safe margins aren't always essential in work for the web.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Mr Crossman. Back in April you asked our opinion about would "defeating this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together?" How is this going? Seems clear to me that everyone wants this safeguard removed. I could really use this feature today.

Also, the ability to upload our own approved scripts prior to running the Transcribe process. The combination of our scripts and the Transcribe process would be a total game-changer for Open Captions (or CC) workflow. This would literally save me hours of work per video.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please make this a feature. I have tried making my own suggestion but I'm met with an error (typical). The function of captions is to speed up the process of subtitling via SRT files but the customisation options are very clunky and completely limiting. If we were just able to apply effects directly to caption layers this wouldn't be an issue but we are having to use the essential graphics tab which is very ineffective. Remove the safeguarding but leave the default position to the safe margins, then it is up to the user (as it should be).

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