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Move Captions to the bottom of the screen

Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It would be useful to be able to move the captions all the way to the bottom of the screen.
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Adobe Employee , Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023
This is by design. We always keep captions within safe margins (10%). Would an option to defeat this restriction be useful or is it better to remove this safeguard all together. Opinions welcome.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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This is completely infuriating! So many editors need to have captions below the safe title line!
I've had it with Adobe updates ruining workflows I've had for ages.
If a fix isn't patched by the end of the month I'm switching to DaVinci. Or I'm just going to become a dog walker. I'm so done with this.

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Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Before v15, when the caption track was treated as a video layer, we could use the motion controls to move it anywhere we like.

It is now IMPOSSIBLE to do this. So, yes please, an option to "defeat this restriction" is essential.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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This restriction is unhelpful and removes a function that was previsouly easy to do in Essential Graphics. Safe margins have two functions; one to prevent issues caused by old brooadcast standards and two, for aesthetic purposes. The former no longer applies in 99% of use cases, and the latter is something the artist can decide for themselves.

If you want to keep the feature for noobs, then it's as simple as checkbox in the EG panel saying 'Enable Safe Margin Restriction' and job done. Please, please remove the restriction.

There are many cases where we may want text right at the edge of the screen, aesthetically pleasing or not.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please remove the restrictions of placing subtitles lower than the safe margins, or implement an option so we can do so ourselves. So frustrating!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Literally astonished that I found this thread. Wtf were you guys thinking?

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Okay, since Adobe doesn't seem to care or have the integrity to respond to everyone who has commented that the new system kills workflow, I have a work around that is working well for us that I will share.
Treat your captions like a composition rather than making it a part of your timeline.
What I mean by this is duplicate whatever comp you are captioning.
Name the duplicate captions.
Do all your transcribing and make the captions in the captions composition.
When done turn off all video and audio in the composition with the captions.
Bring the composition with the captions back into the original comp, unlink, and delete the audio track.
Now you can move the captions composition around like a layer and put them wherever is desired.

This of course is a work-around, but as we know when Adobe drops the ball and fumbles, it can take them a long time to fix the issue and often they just ignore it, like they are doing now, so it is up to us to bypass their system and come up with ways to make things work.. and this is my best solution to date.
Happy editing everyone! Let's hope Adobe soon acknowledges their mistake and work on fixing it ASAP. Captions need to function as a layer, not as a stationary timeline.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Just another voice added to the chorus, here. Please give us the ability to align captions by pixel and to move it out of the action safe/title safe margins.

To those asking, Dan j Francis's comment below is the current workaround and I can confirm that it works fine. Basically put your captions sequence as a layer on top of everything else inside your edit sequence and then you can move it around like most layers using the Effect Controls panel.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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It would be very useful for those of us not working in broadcast. If you are delivering to screens in a public facing environment, like a museum, then we know where the 'bottom' of the screen is. It would be extremely useful to be able to move the captions right to the bottom. Many thanks.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I think an option to disable the restriction would be fine, just having the option to move them at least to action-safe will be super useful for me

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Remove the safegaurd altogether, and just make the "within safe margins" as the default position. But remove the safegaurd. That way we can move them lower if we want.

Let's be honest here, doesn't matter which approach you take, you need to provide us this option again. Whether we can just move the captions, or whether we have to check a box to be able to move the captions.
Really we just need to option to move them somehow.

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Explorer ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Still no change in this limitation, even on the newest v22.1.1 which touts a “revamped” text engine.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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My Crossman...it's been eight months since you asked us our opinion on removing this safeguard. Will this be happening? Would really be helpful to me and apparently everyone else here. Thanks!

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Until this problem is fixed I have to use the previous version of Premiere Pro. I need the captions to go a tiny bit lower in screen to make room for other graphics like baselines etc.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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I have no words for Adobe anymore... if you dont step up, we will all slowly transition to resolve. Any news Francis, the latest update has still not fixed this issue and its been 10 months. I've found a work around if anyone is looking for a solution, create your captions normally using the caption panel, after you've finished, duplicate the seq you just worked on and rename it captions. Delete everything except the captions on that seq. then right click in the project panel on the new seq and click 'new sequence from clip' then copy that clip to your original sequence, and your able to move it freely in the effect control panel.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Safe margins are not needed for most of video productions nowadays so it's a shame we still are stuck with limitations from the past...

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Exactly Damien. Online video doesn't need safe margins. Why hamper us in this way? Even when editing for broadcast, you might want to exceed safe margins anyway. Seems crazy not to be allowed to.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please remove the safeguard. I have branding guidelines I have to follow that the current feature doesn't allow for.

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Is removing Safe Margins still a possibility? It was first mentioned way back in April. We could really use this.

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Community Beginner ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Let us position subtitles where we want or NEED! It's been years that we have to deal with nested sequences or move to davinci to have a proper subtitle editor. You made changes with the new version but ... why can't we move subtitles lower than what you decided?

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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My solution at the moment is: 1- Create a blank adjustment layer. 2- Select the captions and the layer and nest into a new sequence. Now you can position at your pleasure.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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What is the use of UserVoice and paid editing software when adobe people can't even fix this small issue? I am done using Premiere Pro.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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its 2022 and adobe don't fix it? what happen with the freedom we need to do whatever we want, this is not a begginer software, needs may be diferent for every one, and please don't force us with this limitations.... because i guess another editing software are doing this things better....

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Participant ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Please remove the Safe Margins

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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Why is this still marked as "needs more info"? Isn't 100 upvotes and 99 comments info enough that you need to remove this restriction? The safe margins will only be useful for people working in traditional broadcast, which I assume is a very small portion of the Premiere Pro user base.

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New Here ,
Jan 24, 2023 Jan 24, 2023

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The request is pretty simple in my opinion, just remove the safe margin so that we can position the subtiltles wherever we need to. I can't see anymore info needed for this request. @Adobe, please update this thread or post a response here to keep us updated on this topic.

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