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Forum|Forum|7 years ago
October 25, 2018
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I would like to be able to change the font and font size across the board in the interface. it is WAY to small for my old eyes

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Francis-Crossman17221443

Community Manager

Hi everyone, thanks for the passionate feedback. Francis from Adobe here. I’m a Principal Product Manager on Premiere Pro.

The real talk is that yes, we did underestimate how many of you were utilizing the Console to adjust font size!

UI font size adjustment has been a request that’s been made for years and got shifted or re-prioritized from time to time. As your monitors have gotten larger, your requests have understandably got louder.

You’ve probably seen that Adobe moved to a new unified design language this year. That included a tremendous amount of infrastructural change that has been in the works for a long time. (There are 29 panels and hundreds of dialogs in Premiere Pro that must be reviewed and considered when making visual adjustments!)

All that to say: we’re finally at a place where we can push this closer to the top of the to do list. We now have two active engineering efforts: one for investigating adding font size adjustment throughout Premiere Pro, and one for adding support for operating system UI scaling.

As an Adobe employee, I must also mention a reminder that the Console is only meant to be an internal development tool; you are not even supposed to know it exists! Removing this debug flag wasn’t an intentional removal of functionality, it was a result of broader clean-up of old code. That’s part of the reason we never encourage anyone outside our engineering teams to utilize the console – you never know what you’re going to get, and you can really break stuff messing about in there.

That said, I’m sorry you all had to rely upon this back door to make Premiere Pro look the way you need it to look! We’re working to make this right.

MyerPj

Community Expert

Indeed. [with a "wiser" monitor choice.] I can use a 32" UHD monitor with no scaling.

The question really is about pixel size or pixel pitch. For my ageing eyes I need at least

Pixel Pitch (HxV)

0.27675mm x 0.27675mm

So, I would gladly buy and 8k monitor if it has the above pixel pitch or better. That's the key.

But for 8k pixels crammed into the screen, it would probably need a 120" display. Some odd thing like that.

So I'm locked into a 32" UHD display, and it if was 27", I could certainly only use an HD display.

I only ever consider running Windows with 100% scaling. I have a software I wrote and sold, and some people started running into a problem with xxx showing in date fields (it was Windows 3 at the time) I couldn't duplicate the problem, then I discovered it was because the user had Windows scaling on. So, had to go back and make all the fields bigger, just in case.

Windows scaling is a bandaid for a wrong monitor purchase. I do scale Chrome, but that's about it. Enough people need PP to scale, someday it will happen.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hello @jackthegiantkiller,

Thanks for your message.

How about you make it crystal clear to your team to prioritize this ASAP.

I have done so. I am your advocate on this issue and doing the best I can. I apologize on behalf of Adobe.

Cheers,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

XilburQost

Inspiring

I suspect overhauling the font system would be a heavy lift for Adobe, requiring a rebuild of the UI from the ground up. I'm pretty sure that's why we haven't seen any improvement despite the plethora of other upgrades. Adobe Illustrator has decent font sizing options by comparison, while Photoshop barely has any.

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cizkek_

Known Participant

If any DEVs or Marketing specialist are reading this, I kindly invite you to contribute to the topic to clear the air, and maybe help us out with sharing a road map on how you are planning on solving this issue. Thank you.

A reason to help is: the software is unusable, and have become counterproductive to depend on.

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Michael Grenadier

Legend

Very unlikely that they will share anything until this feature is at least
integrated into the beta version. Just the way corporations like Adobe avid
and Apple operate.

Michael Grenadier
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jackthegiantkiller

Inspiring

"I understand your frustration and wish I could provide more details. Your question is more for a product manager. I hope they will provide a response for you here."

Well, they haven't...surprise surprise. How about you make it crystal clear to your team to PRIORITIZE THIS ASAP. It's really galling, honestly, to announce this feature that literally strips the only font size hack we had. Adobe should be ashamed for not meeting the most basic of accessibility options for those with visual impairment.

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Francisco30391369yequ

Participant

Hi all. I have researched everywhere and it seems like the option to increase UI font size using engineering tools is gone. I know that there is the Project Panel option but it only affects that panel. I teach both face to face and online and have many students with disabilities and accessibility problems visually speaking, so I can't understand why Adobe doesn't make that an easy and accessible function under appearance. Anything I am missing?

Mod note: Edited for content. Please do not discuss the use of internal engineering tools.

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cizkek_

Known Participant

Is there any new developments regarding this issue? Now that our current projects are nearing completion we are considering leaving the Adobe ecosystem even though it will cost us in additional time & energy in getting up to speed with new software, but we believe the long term benefits will be worth it.

We considered adding a section to our newsletters about this issue and if possible asking our partners & customers to transition to more user-friendly software to have a more sustainable working environment in the industry, but we are going to postpone this in the hopes that there will be an update from the developers.

Please keep us up to date, thank you.

Dog Beach Live

Participant

I can barely see many of the panels and settings with "Premier Pro 2025", and I can find no way to fix it. Almost as bad, there are now huge gaps of space between the lines of many of the fields/menus/panels, almost 50% if the screen real estate is wasted and I even now have to SCROLL to reach the elements near the bottom while the font itself is smaller and much harder to read.

Mod note: Edited for content.

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hello @Carson Jones,

Thanks for your reply.

I appreciate that the Adobe team are aware our frustration over this issue.

Thank you.

I'd like to relay the idea to them also, that when designing a new UI model, the parameters and functionality that users find essential (eg. modifying the UI to properly adjust to the workstation being used) must be maintained.

I will let a product manager answer that advice. Thanks.

Why did your process of building the new UI and your way of thinking about it, discount the need for users to scale the UI font to work in their workstation setup in this case?

Why, when designing the new UI, was it okay to remove useful functionality?

Not only has this become a source of frustration for many users, but it seems like an unreasonable compromise.

I hope a developer will respond about why they build software the way they do. Please upvote if you have not already done so. Sorry for the frustration.

Cheers,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

Kevin-Monahan

Community Manager

Hello @XilburQost,

Thanks for the reply.

While that may be sincere, based upon past experience it has no basis in reality, unless of course it's referring to a geologic timescale. We all know that for now and for the years to come Adobe will be busy putting out fires caused by its headlong rush into the latest new features. would like to be able to change the font and font size across the board in the interface.

I understand how frustrating it can be to wait for new features, especially when they would make such a big difference. Unfortunately, I can’t comment on the exact timing of any developments, as it’s beyond my control and against company policy to share such details.

Believe me, I want this feature just as much as you do. I’ve been in this industry since the '80s, including working as an animator at Pixar on two features, so I know how important these updates are.

Rest assured, I’m doing everything I can to advocate for you. As an editor in my 60s who pushed hard to fix the “Blue UI” so folks like us could see it better, you have no stronger ally at Adobe than me.

Cheers,
Kevin

Kevin Monahan - Sr. Community & Engagement Strategist – Pro Video and Audio

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