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beeldstift
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March 28, 2020
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Wish: middle mouse button /scroll wheel click acts as the 'hand tool'.

  • March 28, 2020
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Dear Adobe, could you please make it possible to access the hand tool functionality via the middle mouse button / scroll wheel. The same way it works in After Effect and all other 3'rd party software. It will excellerate all the workflow.


Thanks in advance.  🙂

24 replies

Participating Frequently
August 24, 2024

This worked but it is buggy to test it just need to make sure to use optin 3 on the "How to send the simulated keystrokes" option onthe interface, I spent hours on something it 'll take adobe 5 min to fix do they care???

Participating Frequently
August 24, 2024

Mac Only?

 

Participating Frequently
August 24, 2024

YESSS!! THanks WE need this  feature so simple!!! ADOBE!!! PLEASE LISTEN TO THE USERS!!!!! listenn 

Known Participant
December 5, 2023

@joergeng84239194 

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space bar is usually associated with play/pause in almost all NLE (video apps)... using it as the pan tool is interferring with that.


By @joergeng84239194 

 

No, it doesn't. In After Effects, the spacebar works fine for both play/pause and the hand tool:

  • Single press of the spacebar → Play/Pause
  • Holding the spacebar + left-click drag → temporarily activates the hand tool

It could work same way in Premiere Pro too.

Known Participant
December 5, 2023

space bar is usually associated with play/pause in almost all NLE (video apps)... using it as the pan tool is interferring with that.

I use xmouse for photoshop to use the MMB as pan tool, instead of the space bar.

Known Participant
December 5, 2023

@Warren Heaton10841144 

By the way, how do you scroll through long documents and webpages on your computer? Do you still drag the outdated scrollbars up and down, or do you use the modern scroll wheel and/or touchpad gestures (like two-finger swipe up/down)? I genuinely wonder.

Known Participant
December 5, 2023

@Warren Heaton10841144 

I don't mind retaining old features for old users who have already established workflows and muscle memory, but new features should be implemented for newcomers to enhance their overall user experience.

Although the 'spacebar + left click drag' feature is considered 'foundational,' it is indeed outdated. Since its introduction in the 80s, better solutions have been developed. Check this out:

 

 

Year of creation

Spacebar + Left Click drag

80s

Scroll Wheel

1996

Trackpad Gestures (two-finger swipe gesture)

2008

Touch panel on a mouse (Magic Mouse)

2009

 

Some of Adobe's apps have already integrated these technologies, but others haven't. As far as I know, the current situation is as follows:

 

Hand tool in:

Spacebar + left click drag

Scroll Wheel click

Two-finger swipe gesture on a trackpad

After Effects

OK

OK

Photoshop

OK

OK (there is a bug)

Illustrator

OK

OK

OK

Premiere Pro

 

Warren Heaton
Community Expert
Community Expert
December 5, 2023

@brumby0890 

I'd be fine if pressing the middle mouse button to toggle the Hand Tool was supported as an option at the application level, but pressing and holding the spacebar to do so should never change.

 

It's not outdated.  It's foundational for Photoshop, Illustrator, After Effects, and InDesign. It's anywhere from a few years to decades of muscle memory for users that does not need to change.  

 

 

Known Participant
December 5, 2023

@Wes Howell 

 

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On my macs, one and two finger gestures take care of this functionality in Pr and AE...and modifiers expand my options... but I realize I may be missing some details...

By @Wes Howell 

 

Do both the "pinch in/out with two fingers" gesture to zoom in/out and the "swipe with two fingers" gesture for panning work properly on your Mac? Personally, on my Mac, the "swipe with two fingers" gesture moves the playhead in Premiere Pro, and in After Effects, it zooms in/out instead of panning for some reason. I wrote a bug report about it here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/after-effects-bugs/pan-tool-doesn-t-work-with-a-two-finger-swipe-move-gesture-on-a-trackpad/idi-p/14220203

 

I'm using macOS 12.7.1, MacBook Pro 2015 13".

 

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Is this mostly for PC workflows?

 

By @Wes Howell 

 

It applies to both Windows PCs and Macs.

 

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In AE, you can hold down the space bar to make the hand tool active.  Is that less desirable than pressing the scroll wheel?


By @Wes Howell 

 

 

Holding the spacebar to temporarily enable the pan was implemented in the 80s, approximately 40 years ago. It's an outdated feature. The scroll wheel, implemented in 1996, can provide a better and more comfortable way to temporarily enable the pan tool. It enhances the workflow, speeds up the working process, and makes the app more comfortable to use. That's why it's widely used in CAD and 3D apps.

So, yes, holding down the space bar + left mouse button is less desirable than simply holding the scroll wheel pressed to activate the hand tool.

Wes Howell
Adobe Employee
Adobe Employee
December 4, 2023

 

On my macs, one and two finger gestures take care of this functionality in Pr and AE...and modifiers expand my options... but I realize I may be missing some details...

 

Is this mostly for PC workflows?  

In AE, you can hold down the space bar to make the hand tool active.  Is that less desirable than pressing the scroll wheel?

 

If it were possible to hold down the space bar in Pr to make the hand tool active, would that deliver what you're asking for?

 

 

 

What am I missing?