Creating Chapter Menus and Exporting(Premier Pro & Encore CS6) HELP

Report · Nov 07, 2018

I am creating a reference video that will allow me to build a SBC (Short Block Chevy) engine. I have reviewed the online tutorials for Premier Pro and have established a video with markers. I’m just not sure if they are the markers. I am wanting to create a chapter menu (E.g. Cylinder Heads, Engine, Cleaning, etc.) and under these chapter menus I would like to create sub menus (Lifters, Camshaft, Crankshaft, Blueprint Specs, etc.) The purpose of this reference video is to allow me to either export my video file to a DVD that I can watch over and over again in my shop – or to create a USB jump drive that I can plug into my monitor in the shop and click on these menus to review procedures for the engine.

I have imported my video files and have utilized the razor function to separate each timeline component according to my menu and sub menu needs. I am having difficulties locating the correct steps to export these short segments so that it will export correctly while creating the chapter and subchapter menus. I would appreciate any online reference, online tutorials, user menu notes or personal experience that will allow me to export this video correctly, while informing me of the correct marker type to use to accomplish this task. I do have access to all applications through my monthly subscription. If I need to download prior versions of the software to accomplish this task please advise me correctly.

Thanks,

Daniel D.

Report · Nov 08, 2018

Workflow with PR CC and EN CS6:

Using Encore CS6 with PremierePro CC « DAV's TechTable

This is not as simple as it appears. There are numerous gotchas. But first steps first...

What specific dot version of PR are you using?

Open a marker dialog. The type checked should be "chapter."

There are 2 methods to consider in Encore.

Option 1: In PR, create separate videos for each chapter, then create separate timelines in Encore for each video. Use a "playlist" for the "play all." Menus in EN provide the options. Some menu buttons take you to submenus. Once you get to a selection for an actual video, you link the button to a timeline.

Option 2: Create a single video in PR, and place Chapter Markers at the beginning of each chapter. In EN, create a CHAPTER playlist, put one chapter in it, then link the chapter button to that chapter playlist. There will be one chapter playlist for each chapter. Each chapter itself has no end action set, and you set the end action for each chapter playlist to "last menu."

You can, of course, combine them.

The problem for your USB is that the menus and selections are in EN, and do not work when you just plug a USB into a computer (or TV). EN does allow exporting a flash version that you can put on a USB, but you must be able to run flash.

There is an Encore forum:

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Report · Nov 09, 2018

Ok. Sounds like the USB option is not the way that I will go. I found the versions of the programs that I am using.

Encore CS6 v 6.0.0.492 -OR- Media Encoder CC 2019
Premiere Pro CC v 12.1.2 (Build 69)

Are the steps or processes still the same? I would prefer to just keep the entire timeline in place and the export to Encore. I also have broken each time code piece into separate video(s) that I can also export to Encore (that will take a few minutes to do). I just want to do it correctly so that it works. Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Daniel D.

Report · Nov 10, 2018

PR 12.1.2 is 2018. The version of AME should match that. Generally, when you do a cloud install, it installs the same version of AME.

AME is NOT an alternative to Encore. AME transcodes and exports files (as does PR). Encore will transcode files if they need it, but you don't want to do that if you can avoid it. But Encore does the "authoring" - putting all the bits together with special code and files so they work in a DVD/BD player.

There are pros and cons of the two main methods, and some of it will be preference on your part. I would do two test projects, one each way. Let's assume you have one PR sequence (timeline) with a single "chapter" and 10 "subchapters." The subchapters are marked with chapter markers, right? So for test version A (full timeline method) you'll export only 3 of the subchapters worth of two timelines. So in that Encore project you'll have 2 timelines - 2 chapters; 6 subchapters. The chapter markers should import with the timeline. Menu with 2 buttons, that go to the chapter subchapter choices. For each subchapter, you create a "chapter playlist" with one subchapter in it. A subchapter button links to the chapter playlist with that subchapter in it. To play a whole chapter, you link to that timeline. If you want to be able to play the whole thing (both chapters), you create a playlist (not a chapter playlist) with the 2 timelines in it.

In version 2, you export each subchapter as separate files - so 6. A subchapter button links to that subchapters timeline. To play a whole chapter, you create a playlist with that chapters 3 subchapter timelines in it. To play the whole thing (both chapters), you create a playlist with the 2 chapter playlists in it. (Or a playlist with all 6 subchapter timelines.)

Encore is unforgiving. A project may get corrupt and it takes a "do over" to fix it. So getting your workflow set in a test project is worth it.

Report · Nov 11, 2018

Thank you for your post. I need your help in explaining your two (2) types of version options. For simplicity I will use the following timeline from a PR test file, as an example:

Four(4) videos were imported into PR. The names of these videos are:

Oil Mods
Engine Specs
Crank Mods
Bob Weight

My chapter selections and sub chapter selections are listed as follows (all are designated as chapter markers in PR) with corresponding timeline info according to PR:

Oil Pump (00:00:00:00)
1. Oil Adapter (00:00:28:04)
2. Torque Specs (00:00:45:28)
Engine Specs (00:01:04:00)
Crankshaft Modifications (00:02:29:07)
1. Thrust Bearing (00:02:37:18)
Bob Weight Calculations (00:02:53:04)

Next, do I export my video compilation as a format MPEG-2 for Encore, or import my PR file as an asset utilizing the timeline option.

Using the above information can you provide guidance and re-explain your two (2) types of version options (full timeline method and/or import each subchapter as a separate file).

Thanks,

Daniel D.

Report · Nov 12, 2018

If you have Videos already in separate sections, I would not combine them in a sequence for this purpose. This is more like version 2 above.

In PR, create 4 sequences, each with one of the videos you list: Oil Mods, Engine Specs etc (now called Video 1, 2, 3, 4). Video 1 will have 2 subchapter markers; Video 3 will have one. Each video/sequence is a "chapter," right? Some chapters do not have subchapters.

Why do we not have a marker for the beginning of each one? Because Encore is going to add it automatically when you import it, and will ignore any name you have given it when you do. So why bother.

Exporting. Not that there are 2 mpeg2 export "formats" in PR. MPEG2 and MPEG2-DVD. You must use the DVD version. In part it sets the default of turning multiplexing off, so you get 2 files, m2v for video and wav for audio. There are other reasons as well. In that step, you also set the bitrate which determines quality and how much video you can get on your disk.

In the Encore project, add a menu first. (It makes the menu first play and avoids a problem with "remote not set.") Import each video to Encore "as timeline," (one timeline at a time) and select the m2v and wav for each one. The m2v should say "do not transcode" in the project panel DVD transcode status column. If not, Encore will re-transcode your video. You need to look at the Export settings from PR. The .wav will say "untranscoded." Your EN project setting default is dolby , and Encore will transcode the .wav to dolby.

Select one of the menu buttons, and link to a timeline. This is a "chapter" play.

Create a Playlist (not a chapter playlist). Add all 4 chapters (in whatever order you want). Link a button to this playlist, and this is a "play all."

Create a Chapter Playlist. Add one subchapter; change the chapter playlist name so you know which one it is. Repeat for each subchapter. Link a button to a chapter playlist, and this will play a single chapter.