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Export 360 VR Video in lossless format to play on PS4?

New Here ,
Apr 04, 2017 Apr 04, 2017

Hi all, I’m trying to find the best codec/container to use with Premiere Pro to export lossless files, that will play on a Playstation 4 (not pro). In particular it’s 360 VR videos that I’m working with.

I have a Nikon Keymission 360. I’m trying to find the best way to convert the original files so they play on a PS4 VR headset, at the highest quality possible.


I’ve done a bit of research, but there are a confusing amount of options out there, none of them seem to fit my task.

Here are the file formats that the PS4 Media player can handle;

  • MKV. Visual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2. Audio: MP3, AAC LC, AC-3 (Dolby Digital)
  • AVI. Visual: MPEG4 ASP, H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2. ...
  • MP4. Visual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2.
  • MPEG-2 TS. Visual: H.264/MPEG-4 AVC High Profile Level4.2, MPEG2 Visual. ...
  • AVCHD (.m2ts, .mts)


- Can anyone advise if any of the listed codecs/containers have a lossless option please?

I see that MKV has a lossless option, but I’m unclear if that is using something different than the H.264 encoder?

I use Adobe Premiere Pro. I’ve literally only just started using it, so I’m a beginner. I’m on a Mac. I have the H.264 codec, but I don’t have the MKV or AVI containers. If they are available online, please shoot me a link

Now to the camera which I’m recording the videos on;

Resolution: 4K - 3840 x 2160

FPS: 24

Bitrate: 58

Format: .MP4 (H.264/MPEG4 AVC)

Audio: AAC Stereo.

The videos need to be resized in order to work on the PS4. They need to come down to 1920x1080p. (PS4 Pro plays 4k video)


I’m unsure from the specs, if the camera records in a Lossless, or Lossy format?
A search online returned the following info: “Fidelity range extensions" (FRExt), - The High 4:4:4 profile (H444P), supporting up to 4:4:4 chroma sampling, up to 12 bits per sample, and additionally supporting efficient lossless region coding and an integer residual color transform for coding RGB video while avoiding color-space transformation error.” - Which sounds lossless to me. - But how do I tell if that applies in the case of my camera?  I think the profile name of the lossless format is MP4_FF_2_AVC_H444P, so I guess my camera would probably list that in the manual if it did use it, or do they normally not go into that much detail about things like that..

Either way, what I’m trying to do, is get the best quality file out of the source. (I will be encoding H.264 1080p for YouTube and Facebook versions of the videos, but since I’ll be playing the files locally on my PS4 I’m happy to have larger file sizes for the best quality)

The PS4 does not play .MOV, so I can’t use one of the Quicktime lossless codecs, like ProRes.


Another question - given that the bitrate of the recording is 58mbps, I assume that changing the encoding bitrate to a number above is 58 is completely pointless?  - Extra file size, but no increase in quality. Is that how it works?

Lastly, should I be using CBR 58, or VBR 1 Pass or 2 Pass 50-58?

Thanks heaps for your input. I realise it was a pretty long question.

~ Cheers.

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New Here ,
Apr 04, 2017 Apr 04, 2017

I'm currently researching using the following tools, but I'm not sure if I'm on the right track yet;

ffmpeg
https://ffmpeg.org/download.html#build-mac

and

Index of /archive/utvideo

Though from the examples I've seen so far it appears to encode initially in AVI, which I don't have that option currently with Premiere.

~ Gethen

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Apr 04, 2017 Apr 04, 2017
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Update, I’ve since used a media/codec detecting tool called MediaInfo on the original file and it has displayed some more detailed info than what is included in the manual.

MPEG-4 (Base Media / Version 2)
Video Stream AVC

Bitrate: 76.0mbs VBR (This is higher than listed in the manual)

Profile High@L5.1

Codec ID: avc1
Frame Rate Mode:

Constant
Colour Space: YUV

Chroma Subsampling: 4:2:0

Bit Depth: 8bits
Colour Range: Full

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