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Arg, that's not a logo! It's a monogram!

Forum|Forum|3 years ago
September 21, 2022
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I can't get my photo of my great-grand uncle's cigarette case accepted because of an IP refusal. They think the "BH" monogram for Blake Hill is actually a company logo. It's not.

Ideas, or is this a lost cause? Best regards, John

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ClaudePhoto

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a monogram is like a logo, but family friendly. it therefore allows identification.

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John PDXAuthor

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Update: I recomposed the photo such that the monogram was seen at an onblique angle and thus was not discernible. The revised version was accepted. Thanks for all the feedback!

Abambo

Community Expert

Congratulations. As for Illustrative Editorial content, the guidelines are here: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/illustrative-editorial-content.html

You wouldn't have got an IP strike for Illustrative Editorial content. And ordinary contributors submit such content, if they had 100 lifetime sales, or they can prove to have such content available elsewhere, as laid out on the above helpx-article.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

Lost Cause. You didn't make the case, an artist did. Therefore you can't sell it commercially.

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

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John PDXAuthor

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Thanks for the feedback. I respecfully disagree regarding me now making the case and consequently not being able to sell the photo. If you search Adobe Stock for "antique cigarette case" you will find multiple photos of similar cases. I think the monogram is the issue with mine.

Nancy OShea

Community Expert

What is the license? Is it Editorial Use Only which is restricted to use in journalism, news articles or factual reporting?

Nancy O'Shea— Product User & Community Expert

Abambo

Community Expert

A lost cause. You will need to edit out the monogram, as monograms are a kind of trademark design of letters, representing something like a logo. You may call it as you like.

In addition, the picture shows excessive sharpening. Looking at the picture at 300% you see the sharpening artefacts.

The edges here show blurring:

In addition, you have dust and other particles in the image.

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Please read the contributor user manual for more information on Adobe stock contributions: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/user-guide.html
See here for rejection reasons: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/reasons-for-content-rejection.html
and especially quality and technical issues: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/quality-and-technical-issues.html

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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John PDXAuthor

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Thanks for the feedback. There is actually no sharpening on the photo. It is a focus stack of five images using Photoshop. The artifacts are the result of that process.

Abambo

Community Expert

This aliasing is a sharpening effect, indifferent from where it comes from.

But effectively stacking would explain the slight blur that appears in some areas:

Artefacts like this and those in my first post will get you probably “Technical issues” refusals.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

J E L

Community Expert

You could make the initial (logo) area a solid gold circle instead of trying to match up the etch lines. I'm also thinking you could stage a more aesthetically-pleasing still life. Maybe add some non-filtered or special cigarettes to show what it's used for. Place it on a more elegant background. This is to be used as a stock image to illustrate a concept; it's not for selling on eBay. Try a setting alongside other objects for scale (a glass, dinner plate, magazine). Possibly placed on a bar in a private or exclusive lounge. Or on a poker table! Something to give more context to the article.

Ricky336

Community Expert

Hello,

One thing you could do is to clone out the monogram, but you would have to do it very carefully so that it won't be noticeable that you clone something out!

Another point to consider is how commercially viable the case is.

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John PDXAuthor

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Yes, I thought about trying to clone it out. That would be tricky for sure due to the intricacy.
I'm of the opinion there is no predicting what kinds of photos people might want. Furthermore, the pool of photos of this subject matter is small. Consequently, mine stands a better chance of being selected should someone be seeking such a photo.

George_F

Community Expert

Hmmm... I'm guessing someone designed it though? I think someone owns the IP rights to this monogram. Even if he made the logo himself, he would have held those rights.

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer

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John PDXAuthor

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Thanks George. I think it's a lost cause. The orignal owner, Blake Hill, died in 1924 so getting a release from him is obviously out of the question. The same applies to whomever created the monogram. It's unfortunate because the case is pretty neat.

George_F

Community Expert

I agree that the case is cool! What's it made out of?

George F, Photographer & Forum Volunteer

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