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Inspiring
March 16, 2023
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"Data Issue" - this is a new one to me. I can't figure out what to do with this now.

  • March 16, 2023
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Hi Adobe community..

 

I've been contributing for roughly six months or so now.  Reasonably "good record" with submissions / acceptances (I think).  Recently though - I submitted four images on different topics (all science and tech related though) and all four came back with "Data Issue" - I've attached a screen grab below.  The description of this hold basically says essentially that the image is OK but there is an issue with keywording or title - and gives little else guidance.  Furthermore it gives me the opportunity to correct this and resubmit.

 

That's all nice but problem is I don't know what to correct, this looks fine to me and seems consistent with all the other hundred images or so I've submitted / Adobe accepted in this past six months.

 

Any guidance?  I've attached the image and the submissions response.

 

Thanks!

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Correct answer Nancy OShea

Eight days is not bad - I've certainly had longer waits but it has typically been shorter (guessing around 5 days avg in the past..?).. It doesn't really matter a lot to me - happy to have images be curated and I've learned a lot in the process.

 

If this space is genuinely inundated with AI images then perhaps I should be rethinking this hobby...?

 

-Pete


Keep doing what you do.  It's fine.  It's way better than any Generative AI I've seen recently with 3 legged tables, 5 legged horses and 6 handed clocks, etc..  🤣

 

Generative AI is a great idea whose potential has not been fully utilized or perfected yet.  Customers like me want high quality images.  AI hasn't met that litmus test yet.

 

 

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Participant
April 25, 2023

I think it's just because this really looks like an AI-Generated image even though upon very close inspection I can see it's not. 

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 25, 2023
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I think it's just because this really looks like an AI-Generated image even though upon very close inspection I can see it's not. 


By @Sam283349533tpw

For a trained eye of a moderator, it should be clear that it is not generative AI. It's the kind of asset that is very difficult to get clean in AI. But you need to inspect the assets at 100%.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Inspiring
April 26, 2023

That was my hope - that renders would still stand out a bit .. but there is such a huge flood of submissions now that I am thinking that's not the situation.  From reading this forum it seems that it's not just me but also traditional photography that's taking a hit.  Since Adobe introduced firefly - I have to believe they are going with the flow as well.  It's discouraging but totally understandable.

Inspiring
April 24, 2023

Update on the "Data Issue" weirdness when submitting 3D Render images (these are not AI images - they are renders).

 

The images that I had originally encounted this with and described in this thread here - after I added "3D Render" to the title and keywords and resubmitted cleared the review and were accepted (and actually have not done so bad). Credit to Abambo for recognizing what the problem likely was and this excellent suggestion!

 

After that situation, I assumed that is a new type issue to deal with in the age of AI so I made a habit of marking my images as 3D renders to make sure they werent' being confused with AI images and going into the same months long AI review queue and/or being mistaken for AI images.

 

Now - fast forward a bit to today.  After waiting for (by far) the longest I've ever waited for review - 19 days - three images were dumped into the same "Data Issue" category...again..  which isn't an outright rejection - it's a "this is missing something you need to correct and then we'll accept it" - and we had theorized in this thread that "something" was that I must've "forgot" to mark it as AI... which it's not.

 

So - sort of stumped.  I'll resubmit these and make sure I have stronger "3D Render NOT AI" callouts somehow - but frankly I'm discouraged as if I've hit a dead end.  This has been a fun run and I admire Adobe as a company - but wondering if the future of stock images at Adobe is all about AI as that is what appears to have absolutely flooded the place at the expense of normal stock photography scrutiny and appreciation.

 

The images in question are attached if you are curious.  Please feel free to comment on their worth (I'm always interested) - but actually just looking for any comments on this whole weird situation. Anyone else seen this?  You guys have been fantastic. 

 

Again - these weren't rejected - they were marked "data issue" (which we determined had to do with the meta-data with the image).  They were (rightfully) NOT marked AI.

 

Thanks!

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
April 24, 2023

I'm just doing guesswork here: What is your title? Did you submit a property release? What are your keywords (language consistent?)?

 

It must have to do with anything like that.

 

Maybe @MatHayward knows the issue.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023

You have added your submission data and the image, but not the response.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Inspiring
March 16, 2023

Oops - sorry about that.. (I thought I had - but it was the keyword screen)..  I've attached it here. 

 

I'm inclined to resubmit them "as is" and hope the reviewer is less AI weary this time around..?  Thoughts..?

 

-Pete

Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023

Well, the keyword screen was quite interesting too, as it showed the AI-keyword. I would not use AI as a keyword, as users are given the advice to use “-ai” in the search, to avoid generative AI.

 

I would also add to the title 3D rendering. Just to emphasize that it is not a generative AI. I was doing 3D for some time in a prior life, and as I saw recently many generative AI assets, I think that I have an eye for the difference. AI simply has not the regular structure as your image. It's more “illustrative”. But on a thumbnail, that is not always clear.

 

But just let's call @MatHayward into this discussion, to see if he has something to add.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Jill_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023

This appears to be a Generative AI image, however you haven't titled or tagged it as such.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer
Abambo
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023

If it is a generative AI picture, it's very clean. I also could guess this to be a 3D render with some Photoshop (globe mirror). However, the “ai” and “artificial intelligence” keywords may confuse. I would in the current context not use "ai" as a keyword.

 

If it is generative AI, check this: Generative AI submission guidelines - Adobe Support Community - 13549435 

 

 

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer
Jill_C
Community Expert
Community Expert
March 16, 2023

I think you're right. Those keywords can cause the moderator to falsely assume that generative ai software was used.

Jill C., Forum Volunteer