Why was this rejected?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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You need to give us the refusal reason.

 

I see several problems:

First, it's out of focus. The people are not sharp, they should be.

Second, it's underexposed. Looking into the histogram, you'll see that there are no whites:

Abambo_0-1629897452933.png

 

The people are even more underexposed, you should lighten the shadows here.

Abambo_1-1629897754765.png

 

As a last, you will have a model release for the 2 people in the picture. If you do not have, there is no need to try to work the picture. If you have, you will need to do an outstanding job, sharpening and correcting the exposure, without introducing too many artefacts and enhancing the noise level.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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Thanks...technical issues i understand.

Model release? The people and the boat are not identifiable... and are not
known to me. Where is the line drawn on when a release is needed? Is there
a link to a tutorial or information statement. This seems to be a very
difficult issue to deal with.

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Participant ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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If there are people, you need a model release.

 

It doesn't matter that you cannot identify them. If they saw the photo, would they know it was them? If so, you need a release.

 

If you can't get a release for a photo with people in it, then you can't use the photo on Adobe.

 

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Explorer ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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Where is the line drawn here? If they were further away in the middle
distance they could be any of a hundred similar boats

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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Model release? The people and the boat are not identifiable... and are notknown to me.
By @defaultfrr5daqvtunq

You err: the people are recognizable. You do not need to know them. They will recognize them, seeing the picture.

 

See here for more information for a model release.

https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/user-guide.html/stock/contributor/help/model-release.ug.ht...

 

Model releases are not a difficult issue to deal with. Either you have a model release or you can't get the picture in the database. That's it. And don't shoot the messenger. It's not my rule. It's required by law. You can't picture a person and publish that one without the consent of the person. Exceptions are only editorial use for news.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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How do you deal with the questition of model release when the subject is silhouetted and middle distance, and unidentifiable... is not know to the photographer, and is in a small traditional fishing boat where the destination is unknown?

 

One of the comments indicated that model releases would be needed from the two people in the boat in this photo!

 

Are there specific guidelines available to guide us? Maybe a link?

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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The people in your picture are not silhouetted. And they are identifiable. They would recognize themselves. It's your problem to get the people you photograph to sign the model release.

 

If you are new to stock, you should consider these resources: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/tutorials.html
Please read the contributor user manual for more information on Adobe stock contributions: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/user-guide.html
See here for rejection reasons: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/reasons-for-content-rejection.html
and especially quality and technical issues: https://helpx.adobe.com/stock/contributor/help/quality-and-technical-issues.html

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Explorer ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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This photo you are commenting on, showing two people standing beside a
boat.. *is not my photo. *If you comment on the photo I submitted maybe we
could make some progress with this discussion
*. *



*Re the reason for rejection... This is what I was given. Seems like
generic rejection with nothing specific.*

"Thanks for giving us the chance to consider your image. Unfortunately,
during our review we found that it contains one or more technical issues,
so we can't accept it into our collection.

To learn more about the reasons why we decline certain images, including
technical issues, please visit this page:
https://www.adobe.com/go/stock-contributor-help

You might also find the Academy Board Forum to be a helpful resource.
You're welcome to post your image there for constructive feedback from a
group of your peers. Here's the link:
https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors/bd-p/Stock-Contributors"


File ID: 452628317
Original name: Aninuan Beach - TAAL Volcano and Traditional Fshermen
24-8-21 (1).jpg

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Explorer ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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It seems you confused the photo I submitted with another photo.
 
The photo of the guys beside the boat that you show above is not mine
 
Not sure where this takes us.
 
This is my first experience on this site... Let's call it a learning experience and move on

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 25, 2021 Aug 25, 2021

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Oh, I didn't confuse anything. The people here

Abambo_0-1629903459886.png

are the ones I'm referring to and that are the people on the picture you posted. But you may well have posted a picture that isn't yours...  🙂

 

And as you are the author of this thread, I'm referring to the right person.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 26, 2021 Aug 26, 2021

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The rule of thumb regarding model releases is that if a person can reasonably be expect to recognize themselves in your picture, you need a release. I believe that these 2 fishermen would definitely recognize themselves in your image.

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Explorer ,
Aug 26, 2021 Aug 26, 2021

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Hi Jill... Thanks for the comment. The crazy thing here is that this is
NOT MY IMAGE. I have no idea how this image being referred to was
associated with my content.

I tried to explain this to the first person to comment but he/she was not
listening and even accused me of submitting someone else's work!! Here is
the image I was asking for comments on. Anyway, this experience gave me a
better understanding of Adobe's model releases processes but not a better
understanding of the reasons for photo rejection. The very generic response
that the photos are "rejected for one or more technical reasons".is
unhelpful...Preview attachment Aninuan Beach - TAAL Volcano and Traditional
Fshermen 24-8-21 (1).jpg
Aninuan Beach - TAAL Volcano and Traditional Fshermen 24-8-21 (1).jpg
9 MB


On Fri, Aug 27, 2021 at 4:34 AM CSDP Program wrote:

> Hi Jill... Thanks for the comment. The crazy thing here is that this is
> NOT MY IMAGE.
>
> I have no idea how this image being referred to was associated with my
> content.
>
> I tried to explain this to the first person to comment but he/she was not
> listening and even accused me of submitting someone else's work!!
>
> Here is the image I was asking for comments on. Maybe you can see why I
> was asking for clarification about the subjects recognizing themselves.
> (and also the reasons why MY photo was rejected)
>
> Anyway, this process has given me a better understanding of Adobe's
> processes concerning model releases.
>
> It has not given me a better understanding of the reasons for photo
> rejection. The very generic response that the photos are "rejected for one
> or more technical reasons".is unhelpful...
>
>
>
>
>

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 26, 2021 Aug 26, 2021

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That is exactly the image you posted.  See my screenshot.

 

@Abambo  magnified the boat fishermen to show more detail. 

 

image.png

 

Nancy O'Shea, Adobe Product User & Community Professional
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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Aug 27, 2021 Aug 27, 2021

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Hi Jill... Thanks for the comment. The crazy thing here is that this isNOT MY IMAGE. I have no idea how this image being referred to wasassociated with my content.I tried to explain this to the first person to comment but he/she was notlistening and even accused me of submitting someone else's work!! Here isthe image I was asking for comments on. Anyway, this experience gave me abetter understanding of Adobe's model releases processes but not a betterunderstanding of the reasons for photo rejection. The very generic responsethat the photos are "rejected for one or more technical reasons".isunhelpful...Preview attachment Aninuan Beach - TAAL Volcano and TraditionalFshermen 24-8-21 (1).jpgAninuan Beach - TAAL Volcano and Traditional Fshermen 24-8-21 (1).jpg9
By @defaultfrr5daqvtunq

Again: look here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors/why-was-this-rejected/td-p/12339915. Even the name you give here corresponds to the name of the original file. I suppose you need to look better at your pictures. I just posted part of your image showing the fisherman.

 

The rejection reason for your pictures are here: https://community.adobe.com/t5/stock-contributors/why-was-this-rejected/m-p/12339957#M34176

 

That are all technical issues. The moderator, however, rejects on the FIRST issue he or she encounters. No need to further analyse. It's your task to analyse, correct (if it can be corrected) and resubmit. Adobe stock is not a photography school where you get corrected work back. 😉

 

HE was listening and the remark that you were submitting someone else's picture was a joke because you were not listening, and BTW, not looking at your own picture to see that my cut-out was only a part of your picture.


I did, what I often do: I loaded your picture in Camera Raw, edited it partially and showed part of the picture unedited to get you an idea that this is how it could (should) look. I do not need to post your full picture, you will see more detail on my cut-out, without the need to magnify. That is even saving your bandwidth.

 

BTW: When you answer via e-mail to this forum, you cannot attach files or insert pictures. E-mail answers are text only.

 

I hope that this is now clear. I wish you a nice continuation and will refrain from further following this discussion. Have a nice day.

ABAMBO | Hard- and Software Engineer | Photographer

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Adobe Community Professional ,
Aug 26, 2021 Aug 26, 2021

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Examine images at 100-300% magnfication.  That is your image.

 

For legal reasons, I cannot use your image for my commercial project because you did not submit model releases.  Or to put it another way, if I tried to use your image for a commercial project without signed model releases, I would lose my job. Adobe would be sued.  And you would likely be sued for not having model releases.  Do you see how that works?  Model release are required to protect everyone, including you.

 

 

 

Nancy O'Shea, Adobe Product User & Community Professional
Alt-Web Design & Publishing ~ Web : Print : Graphics : Media

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