Great! Thanks.   Regarding my other questions: 1. The new file will be at C:\My Photos\Pictures - there is no need for me to create a User/Joe folder - Correct? 2. Will Elements My Catalog automatically find the Pictures folder or is there something else I need to do within the PSE program? 3. Can I safely delete the Pictures folder at C:\Users\gill2\Pictures once the process is complete?   Thanks again. By @Joseph5C9E 1 - Yes. The idea is to move the files included in your catalog (not other files which may also be in the original system Pictures folder) one by one into a newly created master subfolder also called 'Pictures'. The new folders  hierarchy is recreated only from and under the Pictures subfolder. The original Pictures system folder stays unchanged except that the photos in the catalog are moved to the n ew location. No global move of folders, only transfer of files in an original folder to a new location with the same hierarchy. 2 - The process results in moving each file individually AND updating the catalog to point to the new location.  That explains why the catalog is updated but not moved from its original folder location. 3 - You don't need to (the moved files are no longer there). You don't want to if it contains photos not already in the catalog. From other sources or in different catalogs. ... View more

I do have the Camera Raw.8bi file under that directory. But still having truble to open CanonR7 Raw picture, the error message is saying that it could not be opened because it it not the right kind of document. Help!!!  By @Rosee The slightest difference in the process will make it aborting. Your other solution be to download the free Adobe Dngconverter, which is an independent program, not a plugin. It will batch convert a whole folder of your proprietary raw files to the open DNG raw format which your older PSE can open and edit. https://community.adobe.com/t5/camera-raw-discussions/camera-raw-amp-dng-converter-16-1-is-now-available/td-p/14297730   ... View more

Of course, it's a good idea to start the drag after a recent full backup... No problem, as indicated in my previous answer, the batch 'move' first copies the dragged files folders to the new destination, then, only when that has been done successfully, it deletes the original files from their location. You won't have to delete anything yourself afterwards. It's like a 'transaction', which is not validated until it's totally successful. You can always 'roll back' to the initial state.   That happened once to me, with a power failure during the (rather slowj) copy process. The original files were still there and I only had to start again the whole process.   ... View more

Thanks for your reply. I'm not sure that I totally understand. Are you suggesting that I create a new folder in the C drive? Here:   Would I drag just the Pictures folder (from C:\Users\gill2\Pictures\Users\Joe\Pictures) to that location? How would I get Elements to find it?   Thank you for your patience. I appreciate your expertise. By @Joseph5C9E Yes.   I recommend to create your own master folder just under the C : root (something like My Photos then to drag the ...\Joe\Pictures subfolder over My Photos.   THat will move, that means copy each individual media file to the new destination, and when everything is copied, that will delete the files in the original destination. No risk to lose the originals in case of a power failure. That will take time since each item location (drive and path) will be updated in the catalog.   Your original catalog folder won't be moved, only updated     ... View more

I am looking to import several hundred Keywords and Categories in text delimited format into the IPTC metadata so that they can be selected where relevant in classifying images. I am not sure if the current versions of Elements allow for batch importing of this data or if not which versions of Photoshop do allow this. I seem to remember that this was a feature in the past. Any insights gratefully received. By @Tim343971048n4g Unfortunately, I don't know of a solution for recent PSE versions. You probably think about an external add-on developped by John R ellis for versions up to PSE8 : psedbtool. https://johnrellis.com/psedbtool/#_Writing_File_Metadata Other contributions by John R Ellis : Photoshop Elements 6/7/8 Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) EditInACR (for Photoshop Elements Organizer)   ... View more

Hi @Joseph5C9E  I recently purchased a new Windows 11 computer. I backed up the My Catalog file on the old computer to an external hard drive, installed PSE 2020 on the new machine along with my Pictures folder, which was also backed up on the external drive, and then did a restore. At that time I was unaware of the user name assigned to the computers. The old computer user was Joe, the new computer user is gill2. Within my Pictures folder, I now have a new folder named Users with "Joe" nested inside. Within that folder is a duplicate Pictures folder! PSE now points to the duplicate Pictures folder to upload and edit photos -> C:\Users\gill2\Pictures\Users\Joe\Pictures. Changes I make in one folder are NOT duplicated in the other.    How can I get Elements to use C:\Users\gill2\Pictures\?  -- Thanks in advance. By @Joseph5C9E You are not alone. In my view,  the problem has not been only the change of your user name. There has also been changes from Microsoft (Pictures vs My Pictures...) The result is that the length of the full path name is increased unnecessarily. Just compare the full path with the user name to the 'shortcut' starting with Pictures or My Pictures. You get four subfolder steps without pictures. By the way, many PSE users don't realize that the default folder steps are just a Microsoft shortcut for the full user hierarchy. That's the reason why I have always been advocating NOT using the Microsoft default for pictures, but to create your own photo master folder just under the root drive of your chosen disk. I believe that choice is also recommended for Lightroom users.   To shorten the length of the full path including the unnecessary subfolders  steps, it's generally possible to use the drag and drop function to move a whole master folder with its subfolders to a new master folder in the folders tree panel.   ... View more

The ACR plugin is no longer installed by default to save time for the majority of PSE users in installing that option. You have to download and install the Photoshopelements ACR plugin by using the menu Help. Check that version from the menu Help > About plugins. What version is it?   ... View more

How do I use Lightroom as my external editor for Elements 2024? I looked at the Browse function but did not know which file I should click on in Adobe Lightroom files. By @mikek6992728   That question was asked many years ago, and unfortunately the answer was that Lightroom can't work as a editor if all your organization (catalog) is not managed in Lightroom. No problem for users who preferred LR to manage their photos and Elements as a pixel editor instead of the full Photoshop.   However, whaLt is special to the Lightroom editing is the parametric editing. where you only store the source file together with your edits. Many pros and advanced users choose the same parametric as Lightroom which is the camera raw editing. They either use the full photoshop in camera raw mode or Lighroom as asset editor with Photoshop as pixel editor. The Lightroom plus Photoshop bundle is idea for parametric editing, as it offers the best of both worlds.   You can use a similar but simplified way with ACR in Elements. You use the organizer and you edit in parametric way from your catalog. Two limitations: - the ACR version of Elements is limited in features. That means that depending of your own needs, you may not be able to edit more than 80% of your pictures in ACR (much more in LR or Photoshop ACR) - The organizer has no direct way to decide if you want to edit selected files in ACR if they are not raw files. That's only possible if the non raw +file (jpeg, psd, tiff) has been previously opened in ACR from the Elements pixel editor. That said I use this process myself. I first select a batch of jpegs and edit them with "auto" parameters in ACR and save them  (either button "Done" in ACR) or "Open" plus save in the editor. Another discussion: https://community.adobe.com/t5/photoshop-elements-discussions/elements-lightroom-shared-catalogue/td-p/11930757 ... View more

@Walter34074127wlx0, it is not clear what you are trying to do. (I'm trying to understand how you are using the term Album.)   An Elements catalog is merely a database of the files stored on your computer hard drive(s).  In general, you can only have one entry in the database for each photo on your computer.  However, you can create sub-sets of your photos by placing them into the Organizer's Albums.   Is this what you are trying to do?  If so, you simply create a new Album and place the sub-set of photos into that Album.  In other words, you can have the same photo in multiple Albums and it is not necessary to import the photo again into your catalog.  (As you have already found, Elements won't normally allow you to do that.)   When you want to see the photos in Album A, you select it from the list of Albums in the left hand panel.  Only the photos in that album will then be available for viewing in the grid.  When you want to see the photos in Album B, you simply select that Album in the panel.   Please let us know if your question has been answered  If not, give us more details about what you are trying to do. By @Greg_S.   I don't use lsofacial recognition myself (I do it manually). The process scans catalogs, not albums. As stated by Greg, you have to keep in mind that each media file is recorded only once in the database with its own (hidden) record number even if you have "albums" formerly called "collections" which are only playlists of pointers to the real record numbers. That explains how you can include given photos to different albums. There should not be duplication of files in a clean database, so what you can do in practice to create "subsets" of albums is to duplicate the source album and remove what you don't want from the result. There is no duplication control of albums. Of course, that has nothing to do with limiting the face recognition which is always performed on the whole catalog if I understand well.   Also there is no simple way to create subsets of catalogs in Elements, contrary to Lightroom Classic which is more powerful in this respect.     ... View more

Is this a new catalog?  Has the problem only just started?  Have you recently imported a large number of files? What are the specs of your computer. By @Greg_S. Additionally, what are your preferences for performance? It is recommended to keep the 70% memory allocation for Elements, not more. What organizer users don't realize is that the organizer can't display the full hierarchy of the folder tree without checking both the hierarchy of folders recorded from the data in the current catalog AND the full hierarchy of all your files kept in your OS (explorer/Finder). You are presented with a combination of both views, and the full OS view may have been changed outside of the catalog since last session. Anyway, I would not be surprised by loading times of 20 to 30 seconds. The specs of your hardware will be very important, especially your RAM size. ... View more

Hi @jlfreund  The usual definition of a bug is a piece of code (or a feature) which does NOT work as intended. You say "why would everyone..." Well, I'll tell you why. The whole concept of data management based on catalogs, is to use the very powerful power of a database based on keywords hierarchies and albums, not on the klunky folders organization of the Explorer/Finder. The purpose of the organizer (or Lightroom...) is definitely to do without the folders hierarchy .system. So, it's not a bug and the organizer is not a tool to help working with folders. I agree you may need or prefer to work also with folders, but that's a feature requirement, not "the" ultimate goal, and that would make the program much more complex and prone to contradictions between the two management options. The hierarchical folders system is not a problem for the organizer at input time, but when "exporting" or "outputting" the results of selections, that's another story. I am not sure I would trust your requirement to be implemented without real bugs in a future version of the Organizer.       ... View more

That's what I suspected. The Sonoma OS is not compatible with previous Mac versions. You would need a more recent PSE version: PSE 2023 or PSE 2024. To read more about that Apple issue, specify " Mac Sonoma" in the text search box to find dozens of discussions on that topic.     ... View more

This looks like the result of an unsupported GPU. You need to tell which is your exact: - OS (Mac, Windows) and OS version - your exact Elements version   ... View more

How do I refresh the catalogue to remove files that I  have deleted outside Organizer.  This is important as I am rebuilding my photo library. By @Guy21899118eju8 Use the menu Reconnect > All missing files In the resulting dialog, on the middle of the top line there is dropdown menu offering several options. First, use the selecet all option Then the option to delee all. ... View more

Indeed, Greg is right that you can't please everyone, and also that Adobe has all the marketing tools to know what style of UI  PSE users expect. The last major UI change was PSE11 and the most requested feature was a so-called "dark UI". This was an opportunity for Adobe to bring changes to the classical "light UI". Both were tested as beta versions, and you know what? The colorful UI was judged very "amateurish" and lacking the less conspicuous look of Adobe "pro" softwares. Probably a bias from Adobe and the more "advanced" beta testers. Anyway,  I would not expect any signifiant UI changes before some ten years from now...   ... View more

I got an update of elements, now the NEF files are not visible anymore in the organizer ( just empty pic). Camer taw install will go to a different fpolder than where elements is installed.   How to overcome this By @KMenken Which is your Elements software? Since PSE2023,  the ACR plugin is not installed by default. you have to go to the Editor help menu and to choose to install that plugin. If you have downloaded a plugin from another folder, it's the full ACR version for Photoshop not the simpler version for Elements. ... View more

The compatibility difference is that layers have never been supported in 16 bits in all Elements versions so, when opening 16 bits layered files, Elements users should receive an option dialog to either convert the files in 8 bits and keep all layers or to flatten the image into 16 bits. ... View more

Albums don't duplicate any media files. They are just 'playlists', lists of files, possibly in your custom order. They are lists of pointers to the existing media files and take negligible space in your main catalog database.   By the way, I never use watched folders. I always choose myself when it's best to import from selected folders. No background task to slow my workflow. Same theoretical process than watched folders. I can't say what is happening to you... ... View more

To clarify, Adobe does not play nicely with Apple. Apple will not fix something that Adobe could fix with a patch (per Apple Support). I suggest you contact Adobe support.  Otherwise,  download another program such as.... anything else. (I am not trying to sell you anything, but  you can also see if Adobe will tell you to buy Elements 2024 to take care of these problems for you. ) By @Tom2181831781xv Tom, saying a simple patch would solve the problem is not a professional answer. The truth is that you would need a new sub-version for each of the twenty old PSE version. As indicated by Greg, your problem is  specific to [Elements 2022 and older] with Sonoma. Not Adobe and Apple. No problem with all the 50 different pro Adobe softwares which are upgraded regularly via the subcription model.  Did you also notice that Elements 2013, issued one year before Sonoma is said to work fairly well with Sonoma?   What are your different options now? 1 - upgrading from Elements to another Adobe subcription softwares (PS or Lightroom). Probably a good economical choice since every year Apple kills older PSE versions with their OS changes. 2 - Going to the competitors, provided you find an equivalent one and are ready to take much time to learn it seriously. 3 - Refraining from updating Apple OSs just because they are the 'latest'. The most compelling reason should be when you have to change your hardware. Remember that Apple is not your only choice... 4 - Downgrading to an older OS version? I don't know, but that is said to be pretty difficult. 5 - Upgrading to PSE 2024 with the 'upgrade' price or better, waiting for a still better discount available at the end of the year by big Internet sellers. AND then refrain from updating your OS if that is not strictly necessary.   That's up to you to choose, but anyway keep in mind that: - Elements is a very marginal software for Adobe in terms of revenue, and that Adobe never misses an opportunity to show the advantages of the subscription license model over the so-called 'perpetual' licenses.. The loss of some Apple PSE users may not be compensated by upgrades to subscriptions, but globally the PSE damage is compensated by the growing acceptance and satisfaction of the subscription model. By the way, for you, what is the market share of Apple vs Windows for Elements, worldwide?           ... View more

Hi Michel  So am I correct in taking it that you agree with me that Adobe is not using the word "convert" correctly on this button? The dictionary definition is to change the form, character, or function of something, giving it a different use or function. It means the original form no longer exists, whereas in the Adobe interface the "convert" button does not do that. Just as you describe, it creates a new, second version which can then itself be modified.   I didn't want to change my original  for exactly the reasons you set out, particularly since there were conflicting messages about whether the process was actually finished.  Steve By @slast Sorry, I don't agree, because the definition you have found is a correct one, but there is also other correct ones, especially regarding I.T. - the most current one is for files formats, where "modifying" directly the source file is meaningless. As already stated, modifying is reading the data stored in the original format and entering them in a new container. There must be a different resulting file and a remaining source file unless somebody, the programmer or the user deletes it. There are many file formats converters on the market for image or raw conversion, so using the word "convert" is not an Adobe error. - The good choice of Adobe is that the resulting catalog folder name is kept, and that the original file is still available and directly usable with the original PSE version. - In this case it's a file folder conversion involving several database files  conversions in the catalog folder. That's not important for the average PSE organizer user, what is important and not enough explained in the help doc is that a catalog is a folder including many resources, files and datatabases. - The whole folder can be moved to another location, it always point to the location of each of your media files. - The main database in that folder is called "catalog.pseXXdb" (XX being 22  24 for PSE2024...) That tells you what is the correct PSE version to open that catalog. - Every new version of the database itself, container and structure is somehow different: updates of the Sqlite database engine, new database structure from Adobe. The user contents are kept nearly 100% in the conversion.   What I wanted to stress was that it's the user who should decide if he deletes old catalogs or archives them.   [edited - thanks Greg - I am struggling with my old hardware before upgrading to PSE2024] ... View more

That makes me wonder why it's there in the first place. I've seen videos showing older APSE versions using a similar function but never metioned there was a 3rd party plugin involved.   Thank you for the info. By @sddreamcrystal For users wanting to use powerful add-ons based on scripts, it's necessary. That's why the option is important even if you don't use it. The problem is that it suggests another function not available in PSE. How would you define the real function wording option in the menu? ... View more

I'd suggest that Adobe would make it clearer what is happening if instead of asking if the catalog should be CONVERTED (which to means MODIFYING the original) it should ask if gthe user wants to create a copy for the new organiser, since that's what will happen.       By @slast No, converting is not modifying, it's creating a file in a new format from the original. Modifying is necessarily done in the new format, it's impossible in the original format. and what happens with the original file is not defined by the word "convert". It can be deleted with or without a warning or just kept, since there are situations when that is very useful. The problem is that many amateur users don't realize that deleting is destroying a part of their work which could be the only way to restore their library. So, software editors must make sure they won't be responsible for the loss of precious user data. They mus make sure the file is not deleted or that the user has formally agreed to to the deletion to avoid any trouble with the law. It's the same for "saving" a psd or tiff file to a jpeg format:  that means creating a file in a new format. So the many users wanting to avoid of deciding about what happens to the original format are ready to accept that the 'saving' loses important properties of the original formats (16 bits for layers...) So many discussions in the Photoshop ecosystem forum about the recent change of t!he save as function! ... View more

Sorry, I have a problem with this again... When I drag a photo into the canvas it comes up as a new own object. I want it to come into my "Layer 1". How do I do that? Kindly Linnea By @Linnea27230054khp6 I don't know what you mean by "to come into my 'Layer 1". Dragging a file from the photo bin just adds a new layer in the layer palette, it does not 'mix' its contents into an existing layer. ... View more

As a matter of fact, you can open half of the available filters even in 16 bits mode. Just try to open a raw file in 16 bits.  If they are greyed out, it's because it's a limitation of PSE. ... View more

The good news is that you have your media files on an external drive. You only need to copy each individual catalog folder to the new computer from the explorer. You copy the whole folder with all its subfolders to a new location of your choice, it can be alongside the external drive holding your media. When all folders are copied under the master folder you have chosen or created, you have the choice to move them back to the default (hidden) location of the new computer. The advantages of storing also the new catalogs in the external drive is that you can access them directly from another computer with the same PSE version just by plugging it. To launch the organizer with catallyogs  located in a custom location, just double click on the catalog.pse24db file in each catalog. ... View more

I have just answered your second problem. Now, do you see many unlabelled thumbnails  or thumbnails with a question mark? ... View more

The only change in recent PSE version for the Organizer interface is that the default view is the 'adaptative' view instead of the old 'detailed' view you are used to. Switch from the view menu or use the shortcaut Ctrl D (D for details). ... View more

Two ideas: - First, ARW is not a raw file format only a tag to identify the Sony origin. Each new camera has its own raw format. https://helpx.adobe.com/camera-raw/kb/camera-raw-plug-supported-cameras.html - Then if you install PSE2023 (and I suppose PSE2024), the ACR plugin is not installed by default, you must go to the Help menu to install it.   I suppose that you have followed strictly the workaround to make the PSE ACR compatible with your new camera. As stated by Glenn, that will not provide the advanced functions (masking...) of the full ACR version. ... View more

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