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‎Apr 03, 2018
01:29 PM
You're welcome...I think! ;^) I've never looked for videos, informational or training ones. If they exist I would suspect they are on YouTube. I like the manual, actually. There have been a few times over the years I couldn't figure something out and have written Em. Never once did they call me an idiot...but I can imagine it may have been thought. I don't know if there is an updated PDF manual since I last downloaded one. In my copy, chapter 9 is the pertinent chapter. The info about the master pages follows the header/footer stuff. On the first page in my copy, it is mostly informational. At the bottom of that page (page 132 btw), it has a heading about a more advanced prototype. Page 133 has the fuller example. What I often do with this plug-in (and the one for XTags) is copy/paste them into a text editor and then alter those examples to fit my needs. If it is a function I haven't used before, then it may take a time or two to get it right. I would be happy to help on your prototype. Either I could whip up an example or, better yet, you could give me the scenario and some dummy data. Take care, Mike
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‎Mar 28, 2018
08:59 AM
My only experience is with Windows applications. Both CorelDraw & Xara Designer Pro (but the other applications Xara makes can also do this) release/remove unneeded clipping masks. In the case of XDP, the drop shadows (if used in the PDF) are also released so they can easily be deleted in order to reset them (cannot remember if CD does this). Which is a good because if the PDF type has been flattened, the drop shadow contains part of the background it was on and would be an issue if changing the PDF output type. There may still be items clipped depending upon the PDF creator and or how the original file was constructed. ID PDFs are the worst, Illy's are generally fine to open. The main takeaway is that I almost never use Illy to open PDFs as it is the worst application to do so. However, open to edit a PDF is always a last resort for me. I'll do so under time constraints to fix an ad, poster or the like. It is not a general work habit for me. That said, there have been books where the original files have been lost and I have used XDP as a medium to edit these, with a further export to use Q for resetting it (if required). Mike
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‎Mar 28, 2018
06:56 AM
I agree in total. But other applications can remove unneeded clipping masks, so as long as we are wishing for something unlikely to happen, might as go all the way! Mike
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‎Mar 27, 2018
04:46 PM
Yep. I just assumed the PDF was an Illy PDF without looking at the properties. Thanks, Ton. I do think it's about time that Illy can create layers from the OCGs regardless of what made the PDF. Every other vector editing software I use can, including the automatic release and removal of all clipping masks not necessary. Mike
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‎Mar 27, 2018
02:52 PM
Well, I made the mistake of grouping items when copying them over. But this is a partially recovered AI CS6 file. Artboard 2 is intact, 1 & 3 were the ones I grouped so they are smushed down to a single layer. If a reconstructed file is needed, your PDF does open properly in another application and it would only take a few minutes more. But I think this should work for Kurt and yourself to test out the PDF with AI editable content. I don't have a current subscription, but the PDF I produced from that AI file does come back in properly in AI CS6. ***Removed file*** Mike
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‎Mar 25, 2018
08:21 AM
Here ya go, Anthony. Dropbox - Anthony.zip Take care, Mike
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‎Mar 23, 2018
02:47 PM
2 Upvotes
It would be best if the complete data as received for the 6 examples of finished formatting was supplied, perhaps as a text file uploaded someplace and linked here. The @ symbol, data type (or style name) followed by a colon is certainly similar to tagged text. But if each piece of the data is on separate lines and the lines are to whatever degree out of order as shown in the bit of sample text, then it would require a bit more work than it seems it could/should be. It may help you to find out where this data is stored. It may be as "simple" as getting them to change their export routine to a format that would be more in the order you need it to be. I've done this with several clients over the years, especially from the clients that have transitioned from XML to tagged text. And for some, I get the raw data and get it imported into Access and push it back out in the order I need (and as tagged text). It may be that after seeing the data for the 6 examples that a Perl regex in a good text editor could rearrange the data as well. And then strip the @ tags, leaving just the location name set for its different, italicized styling. Maybe, probably. Once the regex worked, it could be scripted. Which would be worthwhile to do if this will be a recurring job. Mike
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‎Mar 07, 2018
12:30 PM
I would also likely do a table, at least if the grid-lines were important. Though those too could likely be handled by styles (at least in QXP and I don't have a current subscription to try in ID). The below is from a sample file I created for someone using the mentioned plugin. While the category dividers are full-width in the screen shot, they could be as easily done with paragraph rules in-line with the other data. The categories only appear the first time they are used, like in your example of cities. In your example, the bullets would simply be one or more character styles if the color needs changed for the type of amenities included. Beyond that, I would need a sample of data to see if it could be handled without the need of tables (which I avoid if at all possible). Mike
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‎Mar 07, 2018
11:45 AM
1 Upvote
Without knowing the design, does it really need to be table-based? In any case, conditional merging can be done with Em Software's data merge plug-in, InData. I use it quite frequently. Mike
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‎Feb 01, 2018
08:35 AM
And QXP is the opposite. I need to target a bit lower than I want in order to select text in Q. I get the same behavior in ID as you do. I would really like it if these applications would position the text cursor "properly." For both, for me, it depends on my zoom level. Meaning it is easier when zoomed in, not that the cursor is magically correct.
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‎Feb 01, 2018
07:25 AM
1 Upvote
One can use GhostScript to calculate coverage, but not really density. One can use pdfToolbox to calculate both coverage of each ink and its density.
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‎Jan 20, 2018
10:35 AM
Jane: #1. The family tree my wife has done for years goes back through several branches into the 1600s. It can handle it well. And we've printed it. #2. Yep. It's a Windows application.
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‎Jan 19, 2018
11:17 AM
Yep, the closed QXP Facebook group has a wide variety of people with all sorts of experience. And that is where we should discuss the nitty-gritty of actually using Q and or even discuss some of the particulars. As regards cost...I use CS6 for the most part and do the subscription thing when required. It sounds like where you work is also on a previous, non-CC version. From a cost-benefit perspective, they are looking at going form something that has their ROI for some time, to something with on-going costs. And while a true cost-analysis of CC with constantly upgrading QXP is pretty darn comparable, I doubt a business that is currently using 5 year-old software (or older, if my assumption is correct) will update Q on a consistent basis, either. The main benefit of the perpetual license model is exactly what seems to have been the way in which the place you work at has operated. In any case, I am getting slightly uncomfortable. I'll let the others go further down the Adobe--only road. If you would like to send me a private message I could give you both my email address and of someone at Q for particular discussions. I hope you understand. Best regards, Mike
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‎Jan 19, 2018
10:35 AM
I use QXP, ID et al. I rarely use PS and when I do it is an older version. I mostly use PhotoLine as my image editor of choice. I also mostly use AI as a glorified file converter if/when I need to supply drawings back as an AI file. I prefer to use a more efficient vector editor/creation application for the types of vector drawings/illustrations I do. YMMV. The up-front software costs are one thing. The man-hour costs are on-going up until everyone is up to speed and those costs are more than replacing your current software. But this exact type of thing, the costs of software and man-hours in training/support, is what happened to shops and agencies that switched from a Q-centric work-flow to an ID work-flow once upon a time, too. There are large & small agencies, publishers, etc., that use a Q-centric publishing flow. Somehow it seems to work for them ;^) As an independent, I have done work for agencies, publishers and even for other independents that don't use an Adobe-centric work-flow since the late 1980s. To me it's not a big deal to have feet in different "camps." Because I have always owned my own shop, I haven't had to face this issue as an employee. The best you can do is, without fear and/or emotion attached to it, is to lay out and even-handed review of your current processes, the costs (all the types of costs) associated with the choice management is going to make. Then just dig in and do the work with whatever their decision is. It's all doable. Mike
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‎Jan 10, 2018
08:46 AM
1 Upvote
Just bar charts? As long as they don't have to be fancy, you can use the font Chartwell. You could get away with just the bar chart font (there's a bunch of them). There are also some free bar chart fonts (at least one other anyway). It's not quite as flexible, though. Mike
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‎Jan 07, 2018
08:49 AM
1 Upvote
It might/would make a difference if the XML got deformed. But without seeing it I wouldn't know. It is also possible that ID's preferences got munged-up in some way. It would take deleting the preferences and you would loose any customization of ID. Mike
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‎Jan 06, 2018
07:31 AM
2 Upvotes
This is a screen shot from QXP where I have defined hanging characters. One can define the percentage and, indeed, have various hanging characters in different percentages for either/both leading or trailing characters sets, all connected with the hanging style. Mike
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‎Jan 05, 2018
01:56 PM
Hi Barb, I do some publications from the Continent that uses them (and inward pointing ones). And UK ones that quote Continental work. I do not understand why ID would hang the *.cap varieties and not the standard ones. I haven't loaded text using Minion Pro to see what happens here, and then switch out various fonts and see if any work using the normal code points. Sounds like something to twiddle-away some time over the weekend. Mike
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‎Jan 05, 2018
01:25 PM
And those that are above the baseline are not even the ones normally keyed in. They are named guillemotleft.cap and guillemotright.cap and are used in case operations. It would be best if ID had the same capability as QXP always has had...being able to make sets of characters to apply OMA to. (One can literally add any character in a font if one is crazy enough to.)
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‎Jan 03, 2018
11:45 AM
1 Upvote
There has only been one print establishment I have ever used that wants printer's spreads (an imposed booklet like you made). Instead, they want single, consecutive pages. They do the imposing. So make sure to talk to the print establishment. Which is accomplished by just exporting that file to PDF...unless one changes the default setting to create an imposed PDF. Mike
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‎Jan 02, 2018
07:13 PM
1 Upvote
Sure. Maybe. I dunno. I have no idea what an "Online Labels template" is nor what its relationship to ID is for certain. Are these labels you'll print yourself? If yes, then one could create all the numbers in an Excel sheet and do a data merge. It may be a bit fiddly to enter the position/offset for the multiple data merge though. I think it would be easier to copy and paste that numbered Excel spread sheet and save as a plain text file. Then create and place threaded text boxes in the proper position on a master page, then on a regular page import that text. The paragraph style for the numbers simply needs set up to position the numbers where you want them and at what text size, then add to the style that there is a frame break associated with it. Then each number should be positioned in each text box and flow until it is all placed.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
06:31 PM
1 Upvote
Srishti, this is the proper forum for this question. Please leave it here. pateimus, Which ID version are you using? I am using CS6 in the image below, but I haven't read of any issues in the current versions (and there wasn't the last time I used CC).
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‎Jan 02, 2018
12:24 PM
Sorry, Dov. I know all the preflight is licensed from callas...but I use Acrobat 11 and forgot DC has the fix up now. I do have the current pdfToolbox and so use it there.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
11:16 AM
1 Upvote
All true about Foxit (and a few other PDF readers). But see if any print establishments will use it for printing large format work. I doubt any would use it. RIPs generally see what Acrobat sees. If Acrobat cannot see it, neither will a RIP (and that applies to non-Adobe RIPs too). I do most large format work in CD. Always have. I have used XDP in the recent past when they changed their page size limitation. And I have used AD once (heck, I have also used PS with the PSB file format too). What I like about using a vector design application is I can design at 1:1, but then change the page size to a scale that Acrobat can natively see, group the design (with the line scale on) and scale the design down to the new page size and simply export the PDF at or below the 200" limit. Everyone wins.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
10:38 AM
Hello ceencha, No, I don't think you did something wrong. But the offsets in the font tables can cause issues if a pdf is not used in a pdf workflow/rip process. Acrobat (or Reader) itself can suss things out when printing, though non-Adobe RIPs and or workflows at a print establishment can misinterpret the encoding. As regards converting text to curves. It is a stop-gap, more or less extreme solution to the problem. It shouldn't be used willy-nilly as part of a modern normal workflow (which many/most PODs do not have). Mainly at the print device everything is fine as long as in the PDF it looks correct. It does slow down processing of the PDF because of the shear number of path instructions. For a PDF meant for on-screen usage, the PDF is slower to view but there is also the issue of once fonts are converted to curves, they (the fonts) loose all "hinting instructions" which smooth the on-screen appearance.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
09:28 AM
Thanks, Bob. I used CS6, btw.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
08:39 AM
1 Upvote
Nope. Still odd limits in both ID and AI.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
08:39 AM
1 Upvote
Maybe in ID. Dunno as I do not do large format work in it. I don't think it is the best option. So let me try... Nah, it works. A 206" page in ID with 1" bleed.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
08:25 AM
1 Upvote
You’d still need to be careful about the 200 inch limit in PDFs. Unless one produces an eps or postscript and distill using a certain Distiller profile which sets the user units. But one still needs to check with the output provider to see if they can use it...all the large/grand format printers I have used can do so.
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‎Jan 02, 2018
05:55 AM
And I would use pdfToolbox as it is simpler and more assured than Acrobat. So yes, post-pdf production if at all possible.
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