Hi everybody. I do a lot of audio work for a community group NPO that does live shows and events. I've also had some issues that were noted here. I've found ways to help deal with them. Issue 1: Multiple mixes-- There arent a lot of ways to do this quickly. If you use markers, make sure you stretch them across a range (having a definitive start and end) step 1. Save your multitrack session and all associated audio with a specific folder and name. 2. For every other mix, if you have areas you want to work with separately, place markers. 3. This works best if you have a preset for your multitrack session (you can just create new), but that means adding any effects to their own preset etc; I prefer save as, and give it a new folder and name, then start working by trimming down to the marker area you want to work with. I would leave the marker where it is, Copy the audio and place it at the beginning. Now work with it, and save all effects to a preset (effects bank preserts can apply to clips or whole selections of mixed audio and have multiple effects you can adjust after). Of course, you could paste several in line, with about 2s between and make small adjustments to each so you can play back and hear each one, choosing which is best. IF your markered area is still there, you can remove it. You just want the audio it surrounded. Once finished editting, save the FX and edits (which I will get back to in a moment). Now you have a choice. You can try a copy\paste method (doesn't work well), or you can do a selection replace method using files. I recommend the files. 4. (my way) Save the audio tracks as separate files in your editing setup, note the track names in the filenames. Now open your original and save a new copy in a new location. Now you can import the files into this spare project, and use them to replace audio in areas. What you'll need now: A notepad. Select your marker and it's area, write down the start and end locations. Now you can manually move to the areas you want. 5. Do this repeatedly to replace the audio in each track: make sure your audio from the edits is imported as files. Select each file in turn, and copy it, then select the track it goes to, and go to the timecode panel; you can manually type in the area to view, so add 5s either way from what you wrote down. Now go to the selection area of the panel, put in exactly what you wrote down for start and end, and right click to REPLACE or simply PASTE over it. Inspect the view for any breaks. Repeat for each track necessary. ******This took me 20min to edit each marked section, and about 3 minutes to paste; File save and audio adjustment times will vary by how much you edit a section. To Save your markers for reference (also works with almost any panel): Separate the panel from the main interface by grabbing it's tab and pulling it outside the main window (over your desktop; you may have to resize the main window first to make this possible). THis will make it into a separate window. You can now blow it up as big as necessary by resizing windows. Now you can take a screen shot. You may print or store this for later. I've tried using it for OCR, it doesn't work well (screens are inherently 72ppi). In this screen to print world, 72 is standard screening, but 200 and 300 dpi are print standards, and the minimum for most OCR apps. You can create a photoshop app that can BW, then sharpen, darken, and upconvert your graphics, but it doesn't always work. 1 out of 5 IME(in my experience). You can change the PPI of your screen display in windows, temporarily, and adjust all the sizing for better viewing. Not many gfx drivers support more than 150 (this is much closer to minimum and you can scale up the def a lot easier). This has saved me a few times with crashes from old age hardware. You cannot import export your markers, but if you can use an ocr program to get them into a txt, doc, docx etc, you can copy paste the info for each marker. With a few hundred markers like I use... ...best to save often (autosave every 5 min), and have a sync of the folder across 2 separate physical devices (IE one HDD or RAID tower for working, the other for backup; I like to RAID SSD's with stripe, mirror, and use a simple desktop drive with a magnetic HDD RAID with stripe and parity to do an imaging of those to it once a day with acronis; only new stuff gets written, and it takes 2 hours to reload 300gb--so I take a walk through the park with my girl, or my family, or just by myself and hope they don't think I'm a pedophile, then come home and get to work). Finally: NO YOU CANNOT COPY MARKERS FROM AUDITION TO OTHER PROGRAMS EASILY. They are not metatagged the same way. However, if you mark the tracks, and save each file as MOV or another "EMPTY" movie type, it's possible you might be able to save the markers. MP4 might allow it, but I haven't Tried it yet. I have had the markers carry into a .MOV on mac. If they can be pulled from the meta in an AVI or MOV and IMPORTED into another app like After Effects (Which can copy the marker objects, just not intuitively; you'll need to find a script for it), you can find a way to move them around. Alternatively: If you are working with video and audio together, try a dynamic link from premiere pro. You can also start in Premiere Pro, place your audio, scrub and place markers, then link to audition, and work. However, your original audio will have to be saved in audition as separate files for each track, then each file placed on a track in premiere, and then exported to audition; if it freezes or fails, your audio is greater than 4gb, and you have to place cuts in premiere so you can have it all move as chunks. When you save the original file, save again and give it a new name and location. Work from this file, and anytime you wish to revert, you have to rename your old save, and copy it over the new one in your files (not in audition or premiere). With your markers set in premiere, you can do the screenshot trick from above, and then put markers in your audio to match. Now you can do whatever you want. Quit both programs, open the session linked to your premiere, save it with a new name and location and start working on a section. Open the session linked to your premiere again and copy paste like I describe above. It's a lot of work to produce professional, consistent results, but you'll always have backups of the originals to start with. I like making several editions, some time apart, and I keep a copy of every disc and output file to compare the quality of the work. Sometimes I do Anthologies, which means I'll do a whole year or whole SEASON (winter, spring, summer, fall) from several years, and I want to compare quality after software\hardware changes, resolution fixes etc. My workroom dream: 3 monitors of 16;9 AR 1;1 at 21inches maybe 32 1 tv\projection at 50-60in at 6k capable all wired to KVM with 3 computers, each with cs6 and CC installed (and a 4th that's a laptop for onsite work recording\ingesting) each machine has 2 main monitors over vga or dvi, 1 extra for playback over hdmi, each monitor serves 2comps monitor 1 is for comp 1 main and for my mobile as a second monitor -kvm1 monitor 2 is comp2 main, comp 1 secondary, comp 3 secondary---mon 2 to kvm 2 tokvm3 to comp3 Monitor 3 is comp3 main an HDMI kvm ports all to TV Not a bad dream... Now imagine renderfarming those with the latest CC... ...sweet.
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