Regardless, it does sound like you're certain the problem is in InDesign. Barb asked if you were choosing FX options from the other locations (other than the Properties panel) in InDesign, such as the Object menu, the Control panel, or the Effects panel itself. All of these can be active the same time as the Properties panel. You told Barb, ElenaLeeMing wrote Yes, I use those panels, but again the FX option is only available if there's an object already selected, so would it even be possible to set an effect as a document default from there? Yes, it would be possible. Unlike in the Properties panel, the FX option is always available in those other locations, even though you don't have an object selected. So choosing something there, even with nothing selected, could inadvertently set the defaults for that tool (the Frame tool, for example) if that's the active tool. The fix is: Choose Edit > Deselect All Select the Frame tool (or whichever tool you use to create an object that's coming in with an unwanted appearance) Check the state of the effects in the fx menu in the Effects panel or from the Control panel's FX button. There should be no checkmarks next to any effects. If there is, choose that effect again to deselect it. Check the Fill/Stroke settings in Swatches and Strokes. Change if necessary (as Scott outlined). Save your document Now try again. Use the tool to create a shape. It should use the defaults you reset. FASTER: Instead of steps 3 and 4, another solution is with nothing selected but the tool active, open the Object Styles panel (Window > Styles > Object Styles) and Option/Alt-click on the default style to clear out overrides, indicated by the plus symbol. That will reset the tool to the "factory defaults". AM
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