Rikk, Why did you actually ask ? The result is the opposite of the expressed wishes. This choice doesn't make sense. ... View more

Laziness. ... View more

Hi, I'm also hit by permanent problems with CC Desktop updates. There are a lot of threads where Adobe reps or MVPs explain us that in order to fix these issues, we have to uninstall the tool, delete such or such folders and/or files, use a cleanup tool, reboot our systems, re-install, etc. These procedures are not actual solutions, even if they (rarely) work. Do you think that we have that much time to waste applying these procedures ? The real solution is to write code that works. Writing an application installer is not a programming prowess. It's BAU. We shouldn't have so many problems with the CC Desktop installation or updates. I'm really fed up of these CC Desktop problems lasting since years. The culprit is not the user or the user's system. It's bad quality code. Just fix it ! ... View more

Hi, I posted the above message almost 3 years ago and I'm still stressing when I launch the CC Desktop app because I'm wondering which kind of problem will again keep me busy for a while instead of doing actual work. Currently, I have 2 problems. The first is an old one and the other is new since a few weeks and has been observed by other users as well. 1. When I launch CC Desktop, if the launch succeeds, most of the time I get a message in the Assets panel telling me that an update is pending. This update systematically fails at 90% with error code 184 which means, guess what, that the update has failed. I never found any way to fix this and the usual, robotized fix procedures usually coming from Adobe are useless. 2. Very often, since a few weeks, when I launch CC Desktop, I get the following message "Creative Cloud seems to be taking longer... bla bla bla". The spinning wheel never stops spinning, clicking on the "here" button in "relaunch Creative Cloud by clicking here..." has no effect, restarting the computer has no effect either as well as applying the various recommendations supposed to fix the problem. If Adobe think that I can spend time uninstalling, re-installing their tools, cleaning up my disk by deleting their buggy executables, relaunching my system, etc.  just to be able to use their apps normally each time they have something to update, they're wrong. CC Desktop has always been a cause of problems for me and many others since years. It's high time to handle this case seriously instead of trying to make us believe that uninstalling, re-installing programs and relaunching a system is a cure for buggy code. ... View more

Maybe this thread should be merged with this one https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/lr-classic-doesnt-sort-edited-photos ? ... View more

Something wrong in your champion life making you so aggressive ? People posting here do have legitimate problems and/or questions because they are customers. They need answers, not someone explaining them that they are the problem. And Adobe certainly don't need yet another evangelist. Please stop your permanent complaints about unsatisfied users. Your useless and insulting gossiping will not make them disappear and will never solve any issue. ... View more

Thanks very much, John. ... View more

Hi, This workaround is now obsolete. KT has been updated to work with LR CC Classic. See Keyboard Tamer updated for LR CC Classic ... View more

Strange. I had the feeling that they were releasing bugs at an accelerated rate :-)) . ... View more

Hi, Since LR version 7.3, this workaround is no longer working reliably. Sorry. KT can no longer re-read its own configuration file, probably because the menu/command structure has changed. Please now refer to https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/why-no-translatedstrings-lr-en-us-txt-file-by-default-we-need-it . ... View more

Thanks very much, John. ... View more

Please do something about this one. It's incredibly disturbing, given my workflow. It obviously doesn't have the correct priority level in the bug log. This should be fixed since years. Just a few minutes ago, about 50 images spontaneously and unduly got the "Metadata Status is not up to date" flag and re-appeared in the smart collection I created to collect such items. This is happening every day I'm using LR since years. ... View more

> From the screenshots it looks like Patrick is also using a custom colour set. Correct. By the way, thanks for your initial post. It led me to start the systematic check of all my smart collections. ... View more

Thanks Rikk, It seems that "Label Color is none" doesn't trigger the bug. Also, there's no need to have multiple rules to get the problem. The Label Color rule alone is enough. ... View more

More about this... For all the affected smart collections, if I remove the Label Color rule, the problem disappears. If I re-add the Label Color rule, the problem is back. This can be reproduced for all smart collections using these two rules. ... View more

John, Bruce, Resetting the Preferences , as stated above, doesn't help. I have (patiently) checked all my smart collections against this issue and it seems that all affected collections have one thing in common : they are using 2 specific rules. The first rule is the Label Color rule and the second is the Keywords rule. If I create a new smart collection having such rules, I can immediately reproduce the problem with it. ... View more

Your comment is insulting. I have been designing, writing and supporting software since the late seventies. Do you have any background in software design and development ? No ? OK, then try to understand what I'm explaining instead of accusing me of ranting. ... View more

A bug is always general. On the same platform and for the same version, we are all running the very same code. Just, the bug may or may not appear depending on the way the software is used, depending on the system configuration, etc. So, it doesn't make sense to blame the user by saying that since others don't see the bug, the affected user must have a very specific configuration or have done something strange. That's the usual easy answer from lazy customer support departments. Hence the usual recommendations : reset your preferences, re-install the software, re-install your OS, etc. Which usually is a just a loss of time. What has to be done is to really diagnose the problem by finding what in the way the customer is using and configuring LR makes the bug appear. That would be useful. Again, the bug appeared after installing version 7.3 (something I should have avoided). Nothing (hardware or software) had changed on my system. So, there's something new that must be spotted in LR, not in my system. ... View more

Doesn't help. As a former software engineer, I use to diagnose problems in a logical way. I can't do much since I don't have access to the source code. But... What I see here is that LR is not able to properly count the number of items in a dynamic collection. That is, the Grid View has a problem with this. On the other hand, the Collections panel displays the correct number of images for that collection. So the Grid View obviously has a problem in this case (by the way, by far not the only problem with Grid View on a dual display configuration). ... View more

OK. Question answered anyway. The problem is elsewhere. ... View more

That would be bothering, to say the least. Changes in LR that make plugins incompatible should be advertised, especially in a minor release where they are unexpected. Anyway, disabling all plugins doesn't change anything. ... View more

> You have quite a few plugins installed. Maybe one of them is the culprit. I have these plugins since a long time. Never had this problem before 7.3. ... View more

Nobody says that I thought that you didn't believe me. Just wanted to give an example. ... View more

Another example with another collection. ... View more

Another example with another smart collection. ... View more

The image above shows the problem. Look on the left at the number of images in the smart collection : 133. LR doesn't see any although it is showing one anyway. ... View more

Hi Mohit, Here it is : Lightroom Classic version: 7.3.1 [ 1167660 ] License: Creative Cloud Language setting: en Operating system: Windows 10 - Business Edition Version: 10.0.16299 Application architecture: x64 System architecture: x64 Logical processor count: 8 Processor speed: 3,4 GHz Built-in memory: 12255,1 MB Real memory available to Lightroom: 12255,1 MB Real memory used by Lightroom: 732,1 MB (5,9%) Virtual memory used by Lightroom: 881,6 MB GDI objects count: 684 USER objects count: 2175 Process handles count: 1689 Memory cache size: 100,2MB Internal Camera Raw revision: 933 Maximum thread count used by Camera Raw: 5 Camera Raw SIMD optimization: SSE2,AVX Camera Raw virtual memory: 196MB / 6127MB (3%) Camera Raw real memory: 198MB / 12255MB (1%) System DPI setting: 96 DPI Desktop composition enabled: Yes Displays: 1) 1920x1200, 2) 1600x1200 Input types: Multitouch: No, Integrated touch: No, Integrated pen: No, External touch: No, External pen: No, Keyboard: No Graphics 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