News on Premiere Next at Adobe Max

Beeing a simple hobbyist, having spent half a fortune on various plugins, CS6 definately is end of the line to me. CC - solution  provokes!

Here's our answer Lasvideo!  Really looking forward to checking this out.

http://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/davinciresolve

And it's even free!

In a way I am glad that Adobe , has made my mind up for me, I will go on usesing CS6 till I cannot get any use out of it and spend my money Grass Valley  Edius Pro and upgrade every year, I for one will portest the CC via me spending my money on GV Edius for now and the near futrue So As Douglas Adams said "So long and Thank you for the fish"

PS hint hint....... Maybe Adobe if you so concerned about piracy, you should find out how GV Edius Pro 6.5 has not been able to be hacked or cracked since it was launched last year.........

Why do we have to rent the service? I want to own what i pay for… You cant sit here and tell me just cuz you work for Adobe that you think this is fair? That paying adobe for the rest of my life and never recieving a product i accutaly own  if fiar... (not that i will pay a dime to this absurd service)

Also what good are the services to someone like me who just uses Photoshop for hobby purposes. There is no reason for me to save my pictures to the cloud or use any other service your charging me for that are cloud based. What benifit am i getting out of a service i dont want? Please enlighten me. Yes its cool if i was like doing this for a business but im not. I want Photoshop and lightroom period the end nothing else no cloud storage no other BS. If i wanted a service like cloud storage i would buy that service. Now im being forced into a contract and forced to pay for a service I neither want nor use? Not everyone who uses Photoshop is a professional as hard as that may be for you guys to believe…

Im glad the people who are professionals on here and like CC find it awesome thats cool for you. CC is a great deal for bussinesses but guess what there are a lot more people who use PS out there than just perfessionals who play around with this program all day and make money off it. I make no money of the program the only thing i get out of it is the satisfaction of the art i create and share with my friends and family.   So not only are u forcing me to buy into products i dont want you  are increasing my cost by 10 fold. I only need to update Photoshop every two or three versions like i said im just a casual user I dont need every last fancy tool you guys create. Like that new blur tool that gets rid of camera shake like wtf. Seriously who needs that if your a professional and your taking blurry pictures there is something wrogn with you. There are who knows how many tools in PS but guess what we dont need them all. But now you have alienated every last customer who cannot afford this rediculous monthly fee.

All of us average Joe's and people with small bussinesses and who arent working for some gaming company or large studio are geting just socked in the face by forcing us to use CC or nothing. And im sick and tired that every time i point out the price of CC your adobe representitives tell us its   9.99 the real price is 19.99 we all know what an introductory price means were not stupid. And dont sit there and lie to me and tell me that if i dont want to use CC ii can use CS6 the rest of my life you know eventually i would either have to upgrade or go to another company. CS6 will not be a viable option forever. im sick of seeing that excuses on the forum when its obviously not an answer but a way to try and side step the real problem which is adobe. Your just telling us to stick duck tape on the leak of our sinking ship and hope for the best…. 

What really lets me know im getting ripped of is that  since i use more than one program your going to charge me $600 dollars a year for lightroom and photoshop!!! for what!?!?!? A product you will never let me own. Oh wait thats right your also charging me for 10 other programs i never use nor want…I dont understand why you think the cloud is good fit for all your amature customers and small bussinesses. CC is obviously designed for large well to do firms. most people do not need all of those programs so why are you making it sound like were getting a good deal by giving us programs we dont use??

If i wanted those programs i would have purchased them when you used to sell them!!!  Its not a good deal if we dont want them. your purchasing options are totally off base its either one App or you have to buy all Apps…. you have no in between options. Like seriously what genius is running the show around there…… ive never been so upset with a product in my life and have never been so upset as to go and complain about it. I LOVE PHOTOSHOP AND LIGHTROOM and you are absolutely running it and my opinion of it into the ground. 

Edit: if you must copy/paste, please do so under the html tab. Thanks, Kevin Monahan

What will be the next idea from Adobe?
inApp gimmicks (can hear their CEO explaining this new cool feature...): Earn coins for creating new documents (or buy some from Adobe....)

(Can see the high glossy Adobe broshures praising that new so cool feature?)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78yigV0GYGQ&feature=youtu.be

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67Iw9q2X9cU

Adobe cloud = Designers iTunes

Customer tiing at it´s best.

CC / Office 365 / iTunes...

Once in - No way out!

That´s the game!

Well I am sticking with CS6. The new subscription based software does look very nice but the cost of renting this in the UK is unsustainable to me. And anyhow, the newness of this new software will soon inevitably wear off (Remember the exciting new features of CS6 when it first came out?) Bad timing from Adobe. Haven't they heard that the UK economy is currently in austerity measures? Creative Cloud, in its present guise, gets a thumbs down from me. As others have said, not being able to purchase the software outright at the end of leasing the software is a deffo No No.

It seems Adobe pulled this video off their website.

http://tv.adobe.com/watch/inside-creative-cloud/the-myths-of-adobe-creative-cloud/

There was a link to a youtube version but I cant find it anymore.

Also when I try going to my history inside Youtube it says its a private video.

Does anyone know the link.

I thought it was in the first 249 messages but now cant find it.  Maybe it was deleted ?

It was getting allot of dislikes on youtube.

This whole CC only option sucks.

Glenn

For good or ill, Adobe has bet its business on a subscription model. They are doing it to increase revenue, but don't take my word for it. Here's what the Adobe told the US Securities and Exchange Commission and investors in their March 2013 10Q statement:

"In May 2012, we launched Adobe Creative Suite 6 (“CS6”) which is at the center of Adobe Creative Cloud, our new subscription-based model for creating and publishing content and applications that was also released in May 2012. The launch of CS6 included major updates to all of our core Creative Suite (“CS”) point products as well as four suite versions. Late in the fourth quarter of fiscal 2012, we launched Creative Cloud for teams, a platform for teams and workgroups to access all applications and online services in the Creative Cloud. Over time, we expect Creative Cloud to transform our business model and drive higher revenue growth through an expansion of our customer base by acquiring new users through a lower cost of entry, as well as keeping existing customers current on our latest release. This model will drive our revenue to be more recurring and predictable since revenue is recognized ratably. We continue to implement strategies that will accelerate the adoption of our Creative Cloud subscription model, causing our traditional perpetual license revenue to decline. We currently plan to continue to offer the perpetual licensing model as we transition our customers to this new subscription-based model."   

"Rent" vs. "own" appears to be a settled question at this point, and as an issue it is really beside the point.   

The better and more important question is: can Adobe, even if they manage to "transition" their customers to the new model,  really manage their new business model. For the reasons Adobe itself points ot in the risk secion of 10Q, I am not pursuased that it will be easy, or, in the long run, that they can do it. The track record of large established businesses pulling off such a transformation is spotty at best.  If Adobe can do it, bully for Adobe. If they can't, well, there a lot of people who are going be annoyed.

FWIW, I think Adobe's biggest misstep here is in the opportunity to finally rename Premiere Pro back to just Premiere. I think the "Pro" part should be self-apparent at this point. Like After Effects, which used to have a Standard and Professional version, Premiere Pro is just by itself now (and Premiere Elements is just fine as it is). So the chance to simply rename it "Premiere CC" appears to be lost.

I mean, everyone pretty much just refers to it as Premiere at this point, and the icon is simply "Pr" and not "PrPro"

I'm thinking of cancelling my Creative Cloud account over this greivous error!

(not really)