Well stated...  I've already moved away from several of Adobes programs and now considering the unthinkable 😞  Cheers,  ... View more

you have to open either Photoshop or Bridge  If in Bridge click on "Edit" and in the window that opens at the bottom you will see "Preferences..." click on it  ... View more

One more observation regarding the mouse pointer ;  I use two monitors, same resolutions, different sizes, and when flipping throught the files at full screen I loose the mouse pointer.  However, when viewing images full screen and the mouse pointer is no longer visible, by moving the mouse to the other screen and back again it is now visible and remains so ... at least for that session.   ... View more

It still takes more than one attempt to open the program, i.e. get past the crashes.  So far, I see it now allows for large RAW files (120MB) to be opened quickly and stably, however, once flipping through a number of them in series the mouse pointer dissappears.  At that stage the mouse pointer becomes invisible anytime it is over Bridge's window, it still selectes files, which can be seen only when the labels are highlighted.   ... View more

Agree, the scroll bar is too narrow.  I've accidentally moved and dropped folders into other folders and it took time to find where they were placed...      ... View more

Sorry, I have no affiliation with Adobe, exept for a long time and now frustrated user ... View more

One question  You indicate it takes 8 seconds for briddge to start up.    My reason for asking, when I load Bridge [and it doesn't hang up, i.e. crash] it takes less than 2 seconds to fully load, right up to the last opend folder.  However, I set it up to only load from my workstation.    So, is it possible you are using "cloud", and itis causing the startup delay... ?   ... View more

To add to the above -  The PC used is a Workstation, WRX80 platform using Windows 11. The CPU is an AMD Ryzen Threadripper Pro 3900WX, the GPU is a RX 6900 XT, DRAM Memory – 256GB, local storage consists multiple high-speed SSDs and RAID SSDs drives. The equipment is used to edit large (several GB size) files. Also, 4K video. Regarding the issues encountered after the latest updates (which deleted all the previous Adobe versions) - short list: - Starting Bridge takes multiple attempts to get going - Viewing uncompressed RAW files (70 GB+) takes twice as long than in previous versions - Viewing image files at 100% is hesitant and causes the curser to be hidden, making it very difficult to select any files, which can only be seen, as being selected, when the text becomes highlighted... - I don’t use “Cloud” due to the large files, especially video files. There is more... The good, Camera RAW seems to be working as before these latest updates. Cheers Michael ... View more

Add me to this list of dissatified customers...  can't believe Adobe being so negligent in getting one of their better utilities to malfucntion so badly.   Allmost all of the complaints listed on the 2023 version of Bridge apply to mine.  One of the most troubling ones is that it take Bridge forever to start up, i.e. load.  It will load eventually, but that takes several restarts of Bridge.  Also, it does not change even when rebooting the comoputer.   Bridge will start up after about 20 minutes and function with its new "latency", as so many 2023 users are complaining about  ... View more

There were about a dozen updates... ... View more

Short of standing on my head I've done everything suggested without success.  One observation: There is a serious security flaw which Microsoft and Adobe are attempting to plug! See below: July 2019 Patch Tuesday: Microsoft plugs two actively exploited zero-days - Help Net Security While MS has most of the patches Adobe has three, i.e. Dreamweaver, Bridge CC and Experience Manager.  Since my issue only started this week it appears to be the obvious link... ... View more

GED Thanks for that.  If the other's suggestions don't work I will just do that  Cheers ... View more

JJMac, your suggestions do remind me there may be some that I need to check again.  I'll see if unchecking "OpenCL" will help. Cheers ... View more

Thank you all for your replies.  Ussnorway, I'm not on my SB 2 right now, but will carefully check out the link you sent me. FYI, there were no problems with the SB 2 prior to the latest Adobe updates. Granted, I won't allow "Creative Cloud" to automatically download  update Adobe's programs and only do so manually.  Hence it is possible there are two updates that were added on my last try.  Also, I've been using the SB 2 for more than one year without issue.  Not withstanding setting the GPU to be used to NVIDIA's for all programs that are GPU intensive.  At this time, the only programs that are causing this issue are Adobe's.  Even on this workstation, which has a GTX 1080 GPU installed, there appear to be momentary glitches with Bridge referring to GPU incompatibility, but these are easily corrected.  Curious, how can one revert to an earlier version of Photoshop?  Cheers ... View more

Cligger My preference for both size and weight was the 13 inch version.  On the 15 inch that extra half pound, when picking it up by the edge, feels like a lot more... The CPU throttling is only and issue when rendering or during media encoding, and then mainly if the CPU runs at 100%.  I can say, without hesitation, for infrequent use on short videos the 13 inch model will do the job.  Cheers ... View more

Cligger I had the 13 inch SB 2 for about 5 weeks and as you said the footprint is good and that half pound less weight does make it just a bit more comfortable for carrying around. However, there are two caveats, the obvious one is the GPU, but the second one is the fact there is no fan in the tablet and will cause the CPU to slow down significantly when rendering... To be sure, this will also occur with the 15 inch version, but to a much lesser degree due to the fan kicking in when the load increases. I've now been using the SB 2 15 inch for four months and there have been updates that made considerable improvements in the use of NVIDIA's GPU.  This is very noticeable on various video editing software packages, such as Vegas.  It has not been demonstrably improved the rendering speed nor increase use of NVIDa's GPU with Premier Pro. That said, ignoring all the "speed tests" I've been using this computer more than originally anticipated for editing short videos, with multiple layers and sources.  By short I mean between 10 to 15 minutes in duration for the final videos. This surprised me, as I'm not partial to any one version of laptop, in spite of the heavier weight to others available, it's the one that's always with me. In part this may be due to the comfort level give by the extra battery time, but also its performance in my "real world" usage... My original reason for acquiring the SB 2 was its versatility as a drawing tablet and portable workstation, as such I considered it a bargain.  Never did I think it to be the one I'd drag around over others that are smaller and lighter... ... View more

Me thinks I know how you feel, one pays a small fortune and expects superior performance, which after using it does not appear to be achievable However, after several more tests with getting NVIDIA's GPU to perform better, it appears to be an issue created (in part) by SB 2's versatility. I've had editing sessions where the GTX 1060 is used almost entirely by Adobe PR, but the next day it performed at less than 1/3rd to Intel's.  So, still trying to figure that out Also, there is one inherent problem, that being the CPU throttling.  During performance testing using PPBM's program, I noticed the CPU speed dropping to below 3GHz, so I placed a fan behind the screen and it improved to the mid 3.5GHZ range.  This, I believe, is an issue created by Microsoft engineering to mitigate any possibility of permanent damage due to overheating. Unlike my old laptop (as well Apple's) where the CPU is allowed to run full-bore and will literally become so hot that it is almost unbearable to hold the laptop. All said, the SB 2 is my favorite  portable video editing computer.  In spite of the issues noted it performs better than my other portable devices for this purpose and is much more flexible. ... View more

I was able to download and install Win 10 ver 1803 by joining the "Insiders Program".  This improved access to NVIDIA's GPU dramatically.  Can't tell at this time what else has been improved, but running Bill's PPBM tests should give us an idea how this stacks up against other laptops.  There is one test (I did two PPBM tests) that was disappointing, i.e. using the external SSD showed poor performance in that the write speed was extremely slow... See below: PPBM Adobe PR test on an SB2-15-i7-1TB The following was done using the external HD (Samsung SSD T3) via a USB 3.1 port. Note; This test may have the Audio checked off on the 1 st test. The following was done using the 1TB drive on the SB2 If you look at Chrystal Disk tests below there seems a possibility for improvements on the write speed that can still be done by Microsoft... ... View more

Thanks for that Looks as though we Canadians are not privileged enough to participate at this early stage ... View more

Just checked the latest update available and it is Windows 10 version 1709  What is your latest version? ... View more

Bill Yes I've not forgotten my promise Just that the school is increasing my workload ... leaving little time to run more experiments.  ... View more

Please tell us more Did you simply download a "Spring Creator" version or is there a special version for SB2?  Also, are  additional steps needed to updating?  ... View more

Victor I cannot comment on your disappointing experience with RED-Cine X editing software.  What I've observed so far is the SB2 as being somewhat fickle to which editing software is used. With both PR and Vegas my editing experience has been satisfactory.  However, I would not refer to the SB2 as a "Beast", in fact I've never found a portable laptops equal a proper work station when it comes to video editing.  Scrubbing has not been an issue with the SB2 as long the footage is not "red-lined".  With those limitations taken in consideration, I've been more than satisfied with SB's performance.  Once my workload lessens I plan to run PPBM's tests and post them for here critique which hopefully will be next week... Cheers ... View more

Surface Book 2 i7/15/1TB Experience Summary after two months of use This laptop’s primary use is for assembling and editing video clips for educational purposes.  Its secondary use is for editing photos, architectural drawing and sketching. Since video editing is the most demanding use, the following is based on this. One issue most confusing is the dual graphics processors, i.e. Intel’s UHD 620 and NVIDIA’s GTX 1060.  For reasons not clear, with my unit, Microsoft did not include NVIDIA’s GPU driver and it is incumbent to load it before one can properly render most video clips.  Setting up or updating NVIDIA’s GPU driver is best done by using the “Device Manager” and selecting NVIDIA GTX 1060 under the Display Adapters tab.  It’s less confusing than trying to select the proper driver directly from NVIDIA’s site. Once this is done you may have to open the Control Panel to access NVIDIA’s driver, and it will require two to three more steps before NVIDIA’s 1060 will be used by Adobe’s Premier Pro, or any other software that is D3 capable.  In my case the following settings seem to work best: - Under the “Global Settings” tab select “High-performance NVIDIA Processor”;  under the “Program Settings” tab, item 1, click on the “Add” tab and select “Adobe Premiere…” then “Add Selected Program”, then under item 2 select “High-performance NVIDIA processor”.  You will now see the NVIDIA 1060 (GPU 1) actually being used     Although, at first it seems disappointing since NVIDIA 1060’s use is often only 1/3 rd of Intel’s 620.  After two lengthy sessions with Microsoft technicians the following was determined: -     NVIDIA 1060 is only used for 3D capable software -     Intel’s 620 is more powerful than was initially perceived.  FYI, disabling Intel’s 620 causes poor performance, i.e. scrubbing and even viewing videos is very poor. In summary, I am satisfied with the video editing performance of this laptop. Cheers ... View more

I've been busy compiling clips for educational purposes using the Surface Book 2.  These are not 4k videos, but are complied from a large variety of sources.  I can now say the SB2 is a decent machine for this kind video editing to/at HD quality.  There is one issue which I am still concerned about, that being screen capturing of videos without dropping frames.. I've found workaround. but not as good as it should be.  Regarding the use of NVIDIA's GPU 1060, this is an issue I hope will be discussed with 2nd level Microsoft technician tomorrow.  At this time I've been able to get the 1060 working at about one-third to what Intel's does simultaneously, by selectively allocating the 1060 to the specific video editing program, including Adobe PR.  Now that I'm over an exceptional high work load  I expect to run more tests. Cheers .  ... View more

Bill Just for you, I'm still testing the NVIDIA GPU issue... First the existing settings in the NVDIA Control Panel - the Global Settings are set to "High-performance NVIDIA Processor" The Program Settings Adobe Premiere  is set to "high-performance  NVIDIA Processor" Editing in PR scrubbing RAW video files the previews are smooth without any visible frame losses Rendering RAW video files uses the NVIDIA GPU, with a little of Intel's GPU Stabilizing RAW video files does not use either GPUs When opening older stabilized PR files with a "red line" scrubbing is very bad, less though on my workstation, but still not good.  Once said file is rendered scrubbing is as smooth as expected  (note; finally the latest PR version now prevents loss of rendering when reopening) One issue I have is capturing videos off the WEB, today I found a possible solution, Movavi Screen Recorder.  It allows selecting NVIDIA's GPU.  There is a downside, but the captured videos have almost no dropped frames... Yes Bill, I will keep my promise and run your PPMB Cheers ... View more