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‎Aug 13, 2024
09:13 AM
None of this answers the questions I initially asked. You all know that. Obviously, none of you have experience running CS4, CS5, CS6 on a recent AMD processor. We already know that CS4 and CS5 can no longer be activated. Awaiting proper contributions to this thread.
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‎Aug 13, 2024
07:52 AM
No, it's not relevant or helpful. Unless you have experience running CS4, CS5, or CS6 on a recent AMD Ryzen processor and that is what you want to share, there is no need to participate.
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‎Aug 13, 2024
07:36 AM
Kevin, that's irrelevant. Please respond if you have the experience as described.
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‎Aug 13, 2024
06:45 AM
Just reviving this thread since nobody answered. I'd like to hear any experience of people who have successfully been running CS4, CS5, or CS6 on recent AMD Ryzen processors. Any of the applications in the suite, not necessarily Photoshop. Thank you.
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‎Jul 07, 2024
09:15 PM
Hi Bill, It's not clear whether the solution you are offering is a workaround or your answer to the original post. Whatever it is, that is not what the OP is asking. The OP wants to align the artboard to the artwork (not just one edge of the artboard but the whole artboard), not the artwork to the artboard. Is it possible to align the artboard to the artwork in Illustrator? If so, how? Thanks.
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‎Jul 01, 2024
07:43 PM
Hi Monika, Have you been working on your channel or what? I don't remember it being like that. Or did you add thumbnails? It looks great! I will have to catch up on your videos as I know you go to the deep end of Illustrator. I watched the video (you put twice the same link). It's not related at all to the purpose I used offset path in this thread (which has to do with Acrobat), which itself is not relevant to the question in the original post. Follow me? 😉 That being said, what an interesting effect. Some effects like this, I could never do by reading the Illustrator manual/online help. I could only get to them either by chance, by mistake, or by watching someone else do it. Or explain it, which leads me to "you could add a voiceover and a more explicit title". Once again, I learnt something from you. Thanks Monika.
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‎Jul 01, 2024
08:51 AM
Offset path can be very helpful in situations where you in reality do not want to offset anything. By @Monika Gause Now I'm not following you! What? Why use offset path FX to offset nothing? You forgot to answer my question: "Do you agree with the fact that #3 looks like the correct version of #4 with offset path? (path is offset by half the stroke size)"
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‎Jul 01, 2024
08:32 AM
Don't worry about it. This aspect is irrelevant to the issue being discussed in this post.
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‎Jul 01, 2024
07:06 AM
You've got an eye for detail. The short answer is that I'm looking for trouble (which I often get into with Adobe). The actual reason is that I offset the path instead of using inside or outside for the stroke. It preserves the stroke when exporting to pdf.
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‎Jul 01, 2024
05:43 AM
I was reading "meatballs" throughout! 😄
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‎Jul 01, 2024
05:40 AM
Hi Monika, No, I just continue to use CS4 because it does most of what I need and CC is pretty expensive. I don't have any other option in CS4 to round corners (either directly when creating the object or through FX but the result is the same, I believe - I can't remember). Is there an alternative to rounded corners FX in CC? In the file, I put all the FX above the fill and stroke but the order makes a difference of the FX themselves makes a difference. Do you agree with the fact that #3 looks like the correct version of #4 with offset path? (path is offset by half the stroke size)
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‎Jul 01, 2024
05:16 AM
I have come across an issue with rounded corners. I noticed a difference in the corner appearance if I swap the order of FX layers Round Corners and Offset Path. It appears that Round Corners as top layer and Offset Path as bottom layer is the configuration that preserves the original radius of the rounded corner (no visible bulging between the two). I realise that AI uses Bezier curves for circles but was not expecting an issue here. Attached is a self-explanatory editable pdf attachment with four layers: 1- Path is directly offset (no FX), then rounded with FX. RED 2- Path is offset with FX, then rounded with FX. YELLOW 3- Path is rounded with FX, then offset with FX. GREEN -- offset path that looks correct to me with respect to original path. 4- Path is rounded with FX. No offset. ORANGE -- original path that I want to offset. Zoom in on a corner and turn on/off a layer to compare. Does AI apply FX from top layer to bottom layer? I'm sure Monika will love this! 😄
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‎Jun 24, 2024
09:32 AM
Hello. Just reviving this part of the discussion saving to PNG. Anyone with a solution while keeping the "clip to artboard"? The occurrence of the problem appears to depend on the height of the artboard. Adobe, this problem is there in CS4 too. It is unbelievable that it has carried over to AI 28.3 (February 2024)!
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‎Mar 10, 2024
07:49 AM
What is strange is also the order in which the stroke is affected. It seems that the last stroke that was changed is what AI considers to be the stroke of the object, and so if both strokes are selected (or if the object is selected), only that stroke is changed. Interesting. I assume the behaviour has to be expected, By @Monika Gause I have a feeling this is a behaviour by omission rather than a behaviour by design. It doesn't make sense to me. I suppose you mean Object>Transform>Transform Each and the Scale Strokes & Effects in Preferences. It could work in my scenario. But if the objects are not alike (like different stroke sizes), I wouldn't be able to make them all alike with the same final stroke size. Perhaps I wouldn't want to tamper with fill either (not sure how that could be a problem but for the sake of argument). So I take it there is no good way I'm missing out on. I actually ended up doing it the dumb way, by hand, one object and one stroke at a time. You know the old saying, which I occasionally make mine: "when the going gets dumb, the dumb get going". 😄 I suppose I could have done one pass with Select>Same>Stroke Weight and then have one stroke to do by hand only afterwards. I am assuming by your answer that this problem is still a "feature" in the latest version of AI.
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‎Mar 09, 2024
10:31 AM
Well, I've attached a pdf (AI editable). I'm not sure it will help much. I did the first few steps I described earlier. I stopped at what I describe starting at "So I go back to the line" (last paragraph).
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‎Mar 09, 2024
08:47 AM
Hi Monika, Pictures wouldn't add anything. Let me describe a little better. I create a rectangle. Set one stroke to black 1pt size, and add another stroke to the rectangle, set to black 1pt too. That's my object A. I then create a line with stroke set to 1pt size (colour doesn't matter). With the line selected, I Select>Same>Stroke Weight. Object A is selected. I then set stroke to 2pt. That's the new stroke size. When I select the rectangle, I see that only one of its two strokes had its size changed to 2pt. The other is still at 1pt! So I go back to the line, set its stroke to 1pt again, and while it is selected, I Select>Same>Stroke Weight. This time, the rectangle is not even selected even though it has one stroke of size 1pt.
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‎Mar 09, 2024
08:29 AM
Hi, I have an object A which has two strokes of the same size (but of different colour). I have multiple objects like A (but not identical to A, other than the stroke size) on the artboard. I want to change the size of both strokes to a new size (both will be the same size again) but a different size from what is currently set. I want to do that for all these objects on the artboard at once. To keep things simple, I will only attempt in this example to change the size of the two strokes of object A, but bear in mind that ultimately, I want to do the same to all the other similar objects on the artboard. I create a line with stroke set to the same stroke size as A. Then I Select>Same>Stroke Weight and make the change to the new stroke size, but only one of the strokes of object A is changed. The other is not. If I then select a line with stroke size set to the original stroke size of A and repeat Select>Same>Stroke Weight, object A is not even selected! 1- Is this expected behaviour? 2- How can I achieve what I want? This is for CS4. Thanks.
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‎Mar 06, 2024
03:16 AM
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Hi, How can I identify what the overrides are in a paragraph style or character style applied to a type object and next to which there is a + sign? Is there a list of all the overrides the + sign stands for in that instance (a bit like InDesign)? I could look one by one but it is time-consuming and there is always a chance of overlooking an override. This is for CS4. Thanks.
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‎Feb 12, 2024
07:16 AM
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I am puzzled by the way a paragraph style created from existing text picks up its attributes. I have attached a file with an example (PDF with AI editing preserved). There are five lines of text. Column 2: Line 0 is the Normal Paragraph Style. Line 1 is the Normal Paragraph Style with font size increased to 18 pt and first character Horizontal Scale set to 50%. Line 2 is the Normal Paragraph Style with font size increased to 18 pt and last character Horizontal Scale set to 50%. Line 3 is the Normal Paragraph Style with font size increased to 18 pt. Line 4 is the Normal Paragraph Style with font size increased to 18 pt and middle character Horizontal Scale set to 50%. I select the entire text in Column 2 and use it to create the corresponding paragraph style (name in column 4). I do that with "New Paragraph Style" while the text is selected. For each line, I then copy thext "1" (in column 1), change it to "DEF", and apply the corresponding new style to text in Column 3. 1- I don't understand why the text to which I apply the style comes with a + sign after the style name for lines 1-4. 2- I don't understand why the new paragraph style doesn't ignore the Horizontal scaling since it has mixed values (in lines 1, 2, and 4). I expected the new paragraph style like pstyle3 to have a blank value for Horizontal Scale since that is how it appears in the Character Panel when I select the entire text. Instead, the paragraph style shows 50%. 3- When I first apply the new style to "DEF", it appears with + next to it! If I apply it a second time, it fully takes effect. I would expect this to happen the first time I apply the style. 4- When there is a + sign next to a paragraph style, is there a way to tell which attributes have changed (like in InDesign)? Or is the only way to find out to compare each attribute value to the original paragraph style? This is for CS4. Thanks.
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‎Nov 08, 2023
05:23 PM
Hi Robert, Exactly what I see too. If I apply a gap colour to the cell row border, the right half of the area around the dot on the table's border (first dot) has the correct background but the other half (on its left), doesn't, like in your image. If I apply "none" as the background colour to the cell, then both areas around the first dot are white, instead of no colour. I am also leaning towards a bug. Is this still a bug in the current version of ID? So if I set the colour of the gap to be none, the area around the first dot seems to be white, not "colour none". Mike. I have tried other Stroke Drawing Order for the table, as indicated in my post. For example, with "Column Strokes in Front" for the table, then the row's stroke first dot starts to the right of the table border, not on top of the table border as on the picture in my post. This was explained in item #2 in my post, which led to item #3 (open question).
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‎Nov 06, 2023
05:03 AM
Hi, I am having an issue with the cell stroke in a table set to dots and how it interacts with the table border. 1- I have set the Stroke Drawing Order for the table to Draw Row Strokes in Front. I have selected the default dotted stroke for the cell, with gap colour set to none. Yet, as you can see in the image, the first dot right on the table border shows a white background, not the table's black border. 2- If I select Column Strokes in Front for the table, then the row's stroke first dot starts to the right of the table border, not on top of the table border as on the previous picture. 3- I tried to create a custom dotted stroke but that always starts with a dot that cannot be removed. Is there a way to make it start with a gap? 4- What I would like is something similar to #1 but with the fill around the first dot being none, so that the black table border shows through! I thought that would be the expected behaviour with the chosen settings. This is for CS4. Thanks.
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‎Aug 21, 2023
08:57 PM
Hi Jacob. I understand. No, keeping the two sides of the handle straight at the anchor point wasn't my primary goal but it was a consequence of how I described the issue. What I wanted to do primarily was to alter the shape using handles only, and control the joint movement of the handles in a "symmetrical" manner.
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‎Aug 21, 2023
01:40 PM
The workaround I used (cutting, scaling, and possibly rejoining the cut anchor points to the initial object) appears to me still to be much quicker and easier. That is unless there is a problem with cutting or scaling or rejoining that I am not aware of.
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‎Aug 21, 2023
07:19 AM
Hi Jacob, Thank you very much for the time you spent coming up with such method. I would have never imagined something like it! I reproduced everything on my end up to step 7 included (I didn't carry on with steps 8-10 as they were just adjusting the bottom shape). I think there was a typo in the second part of step 4, it should read something like: "4) With the Convert Anchor Point Tool ClickDrag from the top right corner Anchor Point [of the rectangle] to the [bottom] end Anchor Point of the blue guide line;" You'll agree with me that this is very complex and that cutting the shape, scaling it, and then (if needed), rejoin the top part with the bottom part of the shape would be much quicker. What I take away from this is that it is not (easily) possible to work with the handles if the two anchor points are on the same segment (unlike the OP). Perhaps something can be done in AI as a future improvement to allow control of two handles "in sync" in a wider use case than the OP.
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‎Aug 18, 2023
05:06 AM
Hi Jacob, 4 is what I got by cutting the anchor points at the top of 2 with scissors, then scaling the top objet (scaling height only). On the bottom line is an unrelated problem. I realised in the process that cutting the anchor points one after the other creates uneven handles. On the second line, I cut the two anchor points simultaneously and symmetry of the handles was restored.
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‎Aug 17, 2023
12:15 PM
I have attached what happened in my case. I started with 1, made 2, then shiftclickdragged and got 3. You can see what happened to the handles. But I was expecting the top part to reshape "in proportion", as your circle did. I think my statement "to keep the same angle" was incorrect. It seems the handles could not have kept the same angle to get the result I was expecting. They did in your case because there was no angle to begin with (rather, yours were the same angle as the direction you were dragging in). In the end, I got what I wanted (in a slightly different scenario) by cutting the object at the anchor points and scaling the problem part. I am also unsure where that leaves us! Some place muddy. 😉
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‎Aug 17, 2023
10:21 AM
Hi Jacob. Thanks for that. That was a lot of work! I reproduced what you did with the circle and it appears to be doing what you described. I had done something quite similar before writing here. Let me describe it. Like you, I had started with a shape but mine was a rectangle. Then I converted the top two corners to smooth anchor points. That wrecked the rectangle but showed the handles. At that point, I assume and it looks like the handles for each anchor point are identical. Then I deselected the object and with the Direct Selection Tool, shiftclickdragged somewhere on the top segment (not in the middle). The two handles went crazy each resizing separately. Obviously, the top segment also lost its symmetry.
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‎Aug 17, 2023
05:11 AM
Jacob. After tinkering some more with it, if I don't shiftclick right in the middle of the segment and then drag, then the symmetry in the handles adjustment is lost. Am I missing something?
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‎Aug 17, 2023
05:03 AM
Hi Jacob. Thanks. You're right. I could swear I had tried this before writing and thought maybe it doesn't work with CS4. But I tried after reading your reply and indeed, ShifClickDrag the segment with Direct Selection adjusts the length of both handles and keeps their angle as is. Thanks again.
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‎Aug 14, 2023
11:46 PM
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Hi. Just reviving this thread. What about doing what the OP wants but with only one segment (not two) between the two anchor points with the handles? In other words, the sharp anchor point at the top of the teardrop does not exist, making the anchor points with the handles two ends of the same segment. I would like to keep the anchor points in place but change the size of both handles (just the top part of the handles) the same way for both anchors.
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