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mattchristensen
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022
Question

DISCUSS: Background Auto Save now in Premiere Pro (Beta)

  • October 6, 2022
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We are excited to announce that as of the latest Premiere Pro (Beta), auto save will now run in the background, leaving you able to edit with fewer interruptions while knowing your project data is safely backed up.


There’s nothing to turn on – auto save will now run in the background as long as you are using Premiere Pro (Beta) version 23.1 build 24 (23.1.0.24) or later.

 

How it works

Previously, auto save required a progress bar to appear on screen, meaning you couldn’t work until the save finished. Now, auto save will wait until there is a break in your editing, then attempt a save in the background without showing a progress bar. If you make an edit or otherwise change the state of the project, auto save will cancel leaving your work uninterrupted.

 

Background auto save is able to run at the same time as some common editing actions, like playback, without having to abort. If for some reason auto save hasn’t been able to complete a save for too long, it will fall back to the modal progress bar to ensure your project data is safe.

 

We’ve found in our testing that most editors are able to work as usual, without interruptions but with the same number of auto save files saved in the scratch folder.

 

How to test Background Auto Save

You can install Premiere Pro (Beta) alongside the release version of Premiere Pro. Open the Creative Cloud desktop application and open the Beta section on the left hand side, then click Install next to Premiere Pro (Beta). If you already have the Beta installed, click on the Updates section on the left hand side to get the latest build.

 

Background auto save will show its progress bar in the Progress panel inside Premiere Pro. Choose Window > Progress to open the panel. For many small to medium size projects, background auto save completes so quickly that you may only see a brief flash in the Progress panel.

 

Saving the current project

Premiere Pro has an existing preference called “Auto save also saves the current project(s)” found in Preferences > Auto Save. You can turn this preference on and when background auto save runs, it will also save your project without interrupting your work.

 

Feedback

We’re looking forward to your feedback after trying background auto save. Let us know here in the comments how it is working for you!

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BrianDavison
Known Participant
October 12, 2022

I'm really excited about this functionality.  I think someone else mentioned this, but it'd be great to get a little granularity in how/when it saves. I.e. try to save once every 5 minutes, but for sure interrupt and save every 20 minutes if it hasn't been able to happen. Depending on people's editing style and project size, based on what i've read, maybe it's even possible to save every 2 minutes. Then, on top of all that, some sort of functionality analagous to time machine. I.e. keep files every two minutes for the last hour and then more sparsely. That way, in the event of a crash, you're always close to your most recent autosave, but files aren't piling up.

Legend
October 8, 2022

Blimey, I can't believe the level of interest in autosave! 

 

That said, I'll add my tuppenorth...

 

I definitely need a reliable, regular save (cos, crashes) that is as invisible as possible. I very rarely need to go into autosave vault. Current behaviour is actually pretty acceptable (though I would like control of 'inactivity' period with a 'force at X mins' override - see 5. below)

 

1. Seems like this isn't 'background save' as I'd understand it, or it wouldn't wait for a break in editing. It's just hidden the progress bar. Which is fine.

 

2. Presumably 'waiting for a break' is current behaviour too - which explains why I see much longer gaps in autosaves than the 2 mins I have it set to.

 

3. Please make 'autosave saves current project' the default. Especially in productions.

 

With this set (which matches behaviour in Avid) the *only* two reasons to need to go to autosave vault is

a. corrupt project file (rare) or

b. to revert to a previous edit (also rare with sequence versioning)

 

4. The copy of the current project in the autosave vault is then pretty much redundant + a waste of cpu/storage io. Last modified version in vault should be the one *before* current save.

 

5. Avid offers granularity in the 'break in editing' wait. So you can set autosave to 3 mins, with 'inactivity' set to 15 secs, but 'force' autosave at 10 mins. 

 

6. Could the 'vault' versioning be set to keep, say,  last 5 autosaves, then hourly + 24 hourly autosaves. (Maybe done on file size rather than strictly on time + would therefore better reflect big changes).

mattchristensen
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 7, 2022

@Joseph_D Forgive my generalized tone of voice in that line, I'm sorry if it was confusing. Background Auto Save has been tested internally by the Premiere Pro team for a few months now, including hours of dedicated testing by people such as myself who have real world editorial experience and tested it doing actual editing. That is what I was describing.

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 7, 2022

>Do you think maybe we should be the first line of testing?

No, we will not impose untested behaviors on beta users; we like them too much, and we also want the beta program to be utilized more...untested changes would not help. 🙂

New features are in beta, precisely so we can improve/refine them based on user feedback. We don't cleave to a predetermined approach, and there is no barrier to, or deadline for, ongoing user feedback. And yes, we work with and hear from many full-time editors. 


Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022

>Why not show it to us first, the actual people using and buying these products?

Beta builds are how we new functionality available for feedback, without impacting those who rely on having official releases of PPro continue to behave as they expect. 


Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022

You're not missing out; there's no 'PPro alpha' program. 🙂 I'm not sure precisely who was being referenced in that prior post, but many PPro team members have worked as professional editors. 

Known Participant
October 6, 2022

I too would like to see an implementation that would auto save after every keystroke - I think the original feature request on user voice was like that. Please make the feature actually useful and don't release it just because there's a deadline coming for the CC 23 release. Take your time and implement it in a proper way, everyone will be thankful in the end.

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022

> I too would like to see an implementation that would auto save after every keystroke...

It's doubtful that could work, today; the laws of physics (and disk storage) continue to apply. 🙂


Example: Let's say you used the Essential Graphics Panel to add a title, in a "medium"-sized project that takes 5 seconds to write to disk. If you were to type 30 characters, PPro would spew out 30 auto-save projects, each of which differs from the previous by exactly one character. Also, presuming PPro could keep up with your typing pace, you'd spawn ~29 background processes, each of which would take ~5 seconds to write a different .prproj...and all that would be for just one line, in one title.

The resultant mountain of .prproj files would rapidly become unmanageable. 

> Take your time and implement it in a proper way...

Agreed! Yes, as with all our new features, it'll be in beta for a while, as we continue to refine it. We're in no rush to jam it into the next official release.

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022

>Does this mean that if I'm constantly editing and dont take a long enough break, will it Not autosave?

Conceivably, yes. PPro will always need to pick a moment, at which to take a snapshot of the project. 

> Is it possible to just have it autosave the actual project file and not create a ton of autosave files?

That sounds tremendously risky, and would remove a level of safety provided by having the project data in a distinct location. If the downside to which you're responding is 'too many autosave files', the user can dial down the "Maximum Project Versions" setting.

Bruce Bullis
Community Manager
Community Manager
October 6, 2022

I like the idea of customizable naming conventions.