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Inspiring
January 24, 2018

P: Histogram behaviors are different from prior versions

  • January 24, 2018
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I am experiencing problems with the histogram in 19.1.0. I am a mid-career fine art photographer by profession, and have been a PS user since Version 2. I am also a member of the Authors Guild, and write on photography for various publications. I have been purposely hanging back at PS 2015.5.1, as it has served me well. Yesterday, I decided enough, is enough, and installed 19.1.0.

This first histogram is at Cache Level 1 for the file values of a 36Kx24K pixel 16-bit grayscale file.

 

Please notice how there are "tails" (lines) out each side of the main body of data, indicating that there are small levels of data almost to the limits of range. For me, it is important to know about these tails exist so that I do not end up creating a clipped condition when applying a curve function. We use S-curve limiters to compact the tails without clipping.

Here is the exact same file at Cache Level 1 for the same 36Kx24K pixel 16-bit grayscale file, but this time in 19.1.0.

 

Please notice how there is no tail indicating data extending to the left, and rather a botched one going to the right. This is not helpful! You will also notice that the Mean and Standard Deviation values differ.

Further, it use to be nice to be able to take the cursor and scan across the histogram with a display of level and count showing up for whatever was under he cursor. This seems to have gone away in 2015.5, and is even worse in 19.1.0.

Thanks for your help.

Pete

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Legend
May 5, 2020
Legend
May 5, 2020
Sorry. I'll make it greyscale. Hold please.
Legend
May 5, 2020
Legend
May 5, 2020
Here's a 16-bit file: https://shared-assets.adobe.com/link/0b69dc6d-9649-4c70-4bef-58523b1dd1c7

Mac:



  I'll add windows shortly.
Inspiring
May 5, 2020
It sure isnt showing on the Mac. How about you folks upload a photo that I can download, and I will show you what I am seeing on my end. Monochrome please.

And yes, that is what I would be hoping to see. So this is good. We are getting to the problem. It should also be noted that the histogram in the Curves function DOES show the tails, while the main stand alone Histogram function does not.

Also, are you able to confirm that the histogram window disappears the moment the Curves function is opened or touched?

Thanks!

Pete
Todd Shaner
Legend
May 5, 2020
I just realized your image is 16 bit grayscale. Here's the same image with those settings.
Todd Shaner
Legend
May 5, 2020
Pete, I'm not seeing the issue on my Windows 10 system running PS 21.1.2. In the below histogram there are tails showing. As *Jeffrey Tranberry requested please upload an example image file to a file sharing site and we can compare histogram views. Thank you.


Inspiring
May 5, 2020
Hi Jeff:
What source document? You mean the photo? Any photo will show tails like this.
Sorry if I am missing your question---not trying to be an idiot.

Pete
Todd Shaner
Legend
May 4, 2020
Intersection Lines not visible in the Curves panel has been reported here:

https://feedback.photoshop.com/photoshop_family/topics/intersection-line-in-curves-not-working

Legend
May 4, 2020
Can you post the source document you're using to generate the histogram?