P: Photoshop 22.0: Where is Line Weight/Width and Pixels options?

*joelfinch If any of us wanted endless vector options we use Illustrator. It really isn't for a lack of knowledge or awareness for the alternate slower methods. @mark_dahm The pixel line tool needs to be put back ASAP.

*joelfinch thanks for putting it so eloquently!  Adobe needs to hear this so much.

I want to add another voice asking for the previous line functionality, and I'm rolling back to a previous version, but I also want to get across a more general idea that you seem to have overlooked or forgotten.

Basically nobody who uses these tools is doing it for the sheer pleasure of it. These are work tools, you've made sure of that by charging work prices, and we all need to be fast and efficient at that work.

If you add a completely new tool, a new filter, a new feature, we expect to learn how to use it - it's new, and that doesn't break anything we're already doing.

But none of us wants to be forced to learn a new way to do an old thing.

That NEEDS to be your guiding principle. You can add new features but you MUST find ways to do it that preserves what's already there. Every detrimental change you make affects millions of people and costs millions of hours.

You cannot expect us to change to doing the same thing in a different way, with more steps, or even just different steps. It doesn't matter how much more powerful the new ways are - sometimes the true power of a tool is not editability or options but speed.

Make the tools modular, so that you can add new items, but always keep the old ones. Instead of changing the line tool, keep it and offer a new vector line tool, and let *us* choose which tools to include in our tool panels.

If you had just added a new line option instead of changing the old one, you wouldn't be having this torrent of bad feedback. There'd be lively discussions about the relative merits of Line Tool I vs Line Tool II, but everyone would be able to do their jobs quickly and efficiently.

And really, Triangle? Like Polygon 3 was beyond us?

I'm pretty sure that Photoshop was more focused on raster images rather than vector. If we want to create vector lines/images, we go to Illustrator. That SHIFT+stroke line does not help when trying to create parallel lines at an angle even if using the rotate tool or touch screen. Come on Adobe, you're giving rivals like Corel, Manga Studio, Clip Studio, Krita, heck- even Sai or worse case, Gimp ammo. The smallest things you guys change is a big, big game changer for us artists, photographers, and other dedicated editors of this product.

Hear us out.

I am a photographer and not a vector artist - when I am working with an image I want to work WITH PIXELS.  This change make no sense at all - I need to add 4 simple lines to an image - so to do this I now need to learn about vectors and stroking?  Taking this functionality away makes NO SENSE at all.

PLEASE BRING IT BACK ASAP

*disenoideas   Your arrow is a fixed pixel size now; it's probably so large that it hides the line; reduce the size of the arrow and the line will be visible.

@they_say_i_can_retouch @Stoneseeker @moldred , Thanks, I appreciate the details. We are looking into ways to restore these benefits of the former tool. @moldred , thanks for your patience; the pipeline for our updates is longer than a single cycle, so even the highest priority work isn't reflected in each update.

The sad thing is that Adobe could easily have added this new behavior to PS by allowing a Weight = 0 setting to create this new single stroke vector (with optional arrowheads, but lacking pixel stroke), but maintaining the USEFUL prior behavior when Weight was set to other values.

Not only would that preserve the pixel stroke so useful to many here, but it would have kept the ability to create a double-arrow geometry that was as flexible as before.

Now it is impossible to create a double-arrow with small arrowheads using the existing tool. If you need a thick like, the same thickness gets applied to the arrowheads, creating ugly, huge arrows. 

The problem with the new arrows is the size is set in pixels, not as a percentage of the line width. So if you previously had an arrowhead to line proportion that you liked, you would have to recalculate that in pixels if you change the stroke width.

The thing I really don't understand here, dear @mark_dahm, is why on earth the pixel line tool has been killed / disabled in the first place?

It just doesn't make any sense to me, as all the other form tools still have the pixel option, so this is where you'd intuitively look for a pixel line – and it seems completely illogical to remove the pixel option from the line.

I assume you had more in mind there than just to annoy people who use that pixel line tool for their daily work, and really need their tools to be fast, efficient and reliable... after all, it's these tools that makes us reliable for our clients, and reliability and muscle memory are the reason many of us subscribed with Adobe, instead of looking for a cheaper alternative!

The suggested alternative actually doesn't help here at all, as it (a) doesn't show the line while drawing, (b) isn't attracted by grids and (c) just too many steps, instead of quickly switching between stroke tool for drawing and line tool for fast corrections and angular elements.

As you seem so keen on making us use the stroke line tool, I assume you killed the pixel line because you didn't want a double tool, right?

The thing is, these line tools all have different functionalities and are used for different tasks. To make Photoshop gain function and efficiency, I think three line tools – (a) the vector line tool for further editability, (b) the pixel line tool as a fast and super efficient base tool, and (c) the stroke line tool for lines that match strokes. I don't really see a doubling problem there, but I think the three could of them complement each other just fine! 

Please, bring back the pixel line as soon as possible, and just as perfect as it was.