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October 10, 2015

P: Morph cut - Analyzing in Background never completes

  • October 10, 2015
  • 185 replies
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I have a simple headshot cutting to the same head, same everything a few seconds later.

All other transitions work find. I try morph cut and see 'Analyzing in background.' Never see sign of progress - should I see it chewing through frames somehow?

I have gone to project settings. Tried both rendering settings. One thing - When I do GPU acceleration my still frames look like garbage - example:

http://www.screencast.com/t/rPiWL6yL

Software acceleration looks fine. No idea if these items are related.

Have run through all preferences. Don't see anything that might be turned off. BTW - working with MBP 15" late 2013. Latest OS.

185 replies

Participant
March 20, 2024

The sequence needs to exactly match the source video, otherwise it might cause problems. It can be pretty annoying but it works - at least for me.

Known Participant
March 1, 2024

It's not working  (just analyses in background forever) as of Match 1st 2024- so that's at least eight years now. I don't mind things not working actually - it's complex, but for Christ's sake tell us it doesn't work and not to bother with it and then we won't waste time on it ever. 

Participating Frequently
February 6, 2024

Not an expert here, but after many failed attempts, I ran the clip through Handbrake---changing the encoding to H.264 and setting the FPS to match my sequence (24). Working now.

 

NOTE: For really stubborn clips, I play the clip in a separate player and record that playback using Windows video capture (Win-Alt-R). That has always worked...assuming I can accept the quality of the capture.

Participant
January 25, 2024

Morph cut is great when it works.  More than half the times I try to use it the program fails to analyze.  

AndrewTheGreat
Known Participant
January 22, 2024

Premiere Pro 24.1 built-in transition Morph Cut seems to have stopped being usefull at all since it never finishes analysing in the background with my videos.

 

My workflow 1 - create a sequence with the settings below, import the footage, cut it, place the morph cut between the clips, colorgrade and use effects afterwards.

My workflow 2 - same except that I cut 2-3 seconds at the end of the first clip and 2-3 seconds at the beginning of the second and in between those secondary parts I place the morph cut transition. 

In both cases morph cut keeps analysing the material for eternity. It does sometimes work (rarely and I didn't catch the pattern) but most of the time it goes into this analysing phase and never finishes.

- nesting does not help

- rendering and replacing to some other format does not help

- flushing cache does not help

- changing the sequence settings does not help

- didn't check other video formats since my current client gives me only footage from one and the same camera

- MERCURY RENDERER immediatelly helps BUT makes it next to impossible to work further. Switching back to CUDA brings back the endless analysis. 

 

The footage I use:

Type: MPEG Movie
Image Size: 1920 x 1080
Frame Rate: 59,94
Source Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 16-bit - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 48000 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1,0
Color Space: xvYCC709 (IEC61966_2_4)
Color Space Override: Off
Input LUT: None
Video Codec Type: MP4/MOV H.264 4:2:0

 

My PC:

Core-i7 13700 KF, RTX 4080, 64 Gb Ram, 7000\6000 speed SSD. Latest Win10 updates, latest drivers for all the PC parts. The current Nvidia driver is 546.65.

 

I REALLY need this transition to work since there is no alternative for Premiere pro and Morph cut is the only way to conceal cuts in a talking-head footage in a way noone will notice. Please, Adobe, the new audio workspace is a good thing but do not forget your old features.

 

Stop trying to edit and EDIT!
AndrewTheGreat
Known Participant
November 9, 2023

Well, don't know what to say... Premiere Pro 2024. The everlasting analysis...

 

Stop trying to edit and EDIT!
AndrewTheGreat
Known Participant
January 18, 2024

Well, the only way to settle this in 24 is to make the clips shorter by cutting them before and after the part you put the transition on. Morph cut somehow tries to analyse the whole clip so if you have two 10-minutes clips you wanna morph, Morph cut will analyse twice as 10 minutes...

Stop trying to edit and EDIT!
Inspiring
January 5, 2024

I also found sometimes, it just takes really, really long. I left my workstation out of frustration and upon my return, the morph was done.
I don't understand why this seems unimportant. An excellent tool to make interview cuts less obvious.

Participating Frequently
January 4, 2024

HTH

If you apply morph cut only to one transition, wait to analyze, it does it's job, very very very slow (20-60 seconds on a mac m1), but it does it's job.

If you apply it to multiple clip at once, it will analyze the last one added and all the rest will remain at analyzing in background.

It will get stuck if you other things so the only way it works for me is one by one and wait for it to analyze.

The feature is broken and won't probably get any fixing since it's over a decade old. 

 

This is why people switch to resolve!

Participant
December 29, 2023

I literaly have it in 2024. 

R Neil Haugen
Legend
December 24, 2023

They removed "master" from their lexicon for "modern" reasoning. It's now all "source", which if you think about it, in the use it gets, is more accurate.

Everyone's mileage always varies ...
Participant
December 24, 2023

Hi,

When I look for the "convert to master clip" tick box, there's one that says "convert to source clip", but I can't tick or untick it. Is there another way?
Thanks,

Josh