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With Dynamic Audio Waveforms turned off, audio gain changes are not visible anymore

Forum|Forum|9 months ago
May 1, 2025
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Premiere Vers 25.2.3

MacOS Sonoma, M1 Max, 64GB RAM

Lots of people complaining about the new Dynamic Audio Waveform feature. I find it annoying and have it turned off like many of you. Problem now is, when I right-click a clip to adjust the overall audio gain of a clip in the timeline, the waveform does not change to reflect the gain change. So for instance, if you have a recording that was recorded very low and you adjust the gain +15dB to a normal level, the waveform in the timeline is still minimized. This is not helpful at all. If you turn Dynamic Audio Waveforms back on, you can see the gain adjustment, but now you have all the annoyances of having it turned on, which makes things like editing audio clips super frustrating for a number of reasons. Please set this back to the way it was before the new feature was added. Thank you.

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Adolfo H.

Community Manager

Completely understand. I'll take this feedback to the team. Really appreciate the comment.

DJP2014

Inspiring

Like the poster above said, there are good reasons to avoid Dynamic Waveforms when working with audio but we still need to see Clip Gain update visually even with Dynamic Waveforms switched off, just like how it worked before.

EHill

Known Participant

@Adolfo H. I'm not the OP, but happy to share my experience here.

For the first half of my career, I worked in sound editing and mixing before transitioning to picture editing full-time ten years ago. When I'm working with audio, I rely on the waveform as a clear visual representation of the recorded track – the raw audio I have to work with in the mix. The keyframes indicate how I'm adjusting the track's signal (like volume and panning), and the meters show the final output. With Dynamic Waveforms active, this clear record of the original audio is lost because the waveform now displays the track's output rather than its input.

Another aspect I found challenging was when I significantly reduced the volume, the waveform lost all visible detail. To make timing adjustments I would have to increase the volume to see the waveform, make the adjustment, and then lower the volume back to the desired mix level.

I do however prefer that global changes via Audio Gain be reflected in the waveform, as these adjustments directly affect the input level of the signal. Sound mixers sometimes under-record dialog (either unintentionally or to maintain headroom in dynamic scenes) and Audio Gain is an incredibly useful tool for bringing under-recorded dialog to a more workable level. In earlier versions of Premiere Audio Gain adjustments were always visible in the waveform, but now they only appear when Dynamic Waveforms are enabled.

I'd love to see Audio Gain changes reflected in the waveform regardless of whether Dynamic Waveforms are enabled. It's worth noting that this is consistent with how Pro Tools handles waveforms - clip gain changes are reflected but volume changes are not.

Thanks for reading if you made it this far. Appreciate the work you all do!

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Adolfo H.

Community Manager

Hi @videomc74, thanks for your feedback! I’d love to understand which parts of this feature are annoying for you so I can pass that feedback to the team. As you might already know, dynamic waveforms are a common editing paradigm across NLEs, helping users visualize the volume changes they’re making to a clip. I’m really curious to hear which parts work for you and which ones don’t. Looking forward to your thoughts.

Cheers!

EHill

Known Participant

I completely agree.

I frequently use Audio Gain to adjust under-recorded produciton sound and I also do not like working with Dynamic Audio Waveforms. It would be great to have Audio Gain changes reflected in the waveform regardless of whether or not Dynamic Audio Waveforms is enabled.

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DougS-EI

Participant

Issue:

When an audio keyframe is set to -999, or dragged all the way down, the waveform is no longer visable.

Steps to reproduce:

Add a clip with video and audio to timeline.

Add an audio level keyframe value 0, move to the right one second in timline add a second keyframe value -999.

Waveform to the right of the second key frame is no longer visable.

Expected result:

The audio waveform remains visable so I can see where I need to add keyframes to raise the level again.

Adobe Premiere Pro version:

Version 25.2.3 (Build 4)

Operating system:

Windows 11

GPU driver version:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3070, Driver version 32.0.15.7602

Video format:

.mp4 video shot on Sony PXW-Z200

Same issue with audio files in .wav and .mp3

Comparative information:

Affects all projects since updating to latest version of Premiere

I have been using Premiere for over 15 years and don't ever recall seeing this behavior.

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DougS-EI

Participant

Okay, found the fix for this issue is unchecking Dynamic Audio Waveforms.

New issue is with Dynamic Audio Waveforms unchecked, adjustments to a clipsAudio Gain are not reflected by the waveform.

IanB_360

Community Manager

Hi @videomc74

and welcome to the Premiere Pro Forum community. Thank you for taking your time to file a bug report. The team just needs a little more information to begin troubleshooting. The link here How do I write a bug report has steps to providing more information about your bug that can help us identify the issue.
Were here to help.

Ian

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