[Locked] No perpetual licenses are you serious?

I see the general opinion is next to 100% that Adobe is using the clear force to put his customers into the lost position. I understand that everybody follows his own interest; I understand that Adobe would like all the money in the world that it can grab. It seems to me what Adobe did with abandoning perpetual license is just the big monopoly game played everywhere these days.

Well the usual ordinary people like us cannot strike back immediately. We as customers are clearly humiliated. Mr Chamber.... in his post from year 2013 said Adobe will continue selling CS6 product on indefinitely? What a joke! I downloaded these days CS6 and when pressed Buy button, do you know what I got? Do you guess what I got:

"Sorry, this page is not available.....Error 404"

Yes, we are the lowest pawns in the classical monopoly game with customers, as somebody said - like Microsoft Windows and a lot of other big players. I think the guys from Adobe and similar companies over-played a bit. The time will show if I am right or wrong.

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Now let's be active! I suggest everybody on this thread search Yandex or Google for "photoshop alternative", or "adobe alternative", and post here his suggestions! Let Adobe see what we shall do with his product: just through it away, even after decades of supporting it. We are the ones to put Adobe to the throne - we can and surely will put it down. Adobe deserves that.

I also think is a huge mistake to rent the software, if this continues I'll be using other designing programs, you should keep the perpetual license mode or you'll be losing more clients, I understand this is for getting better profits but you are just walking over your clients. As we know there are more options to it as long as adobe don't change back

Wow, two years later and it's still being called a bad decision. I was coming here to see if I could ALSO buy the stand alone program without this whole paying-per-month stuff. Look, I see both sides of it and I think that if someone can afford the monthly plan, but not a lump sum, the monthly is the way to go. The BS of it all is that there is no other option. And really, we all know why.

Adobe: Come on, guys. Seriously, whoever is running this idea: ya gotta stop trying to nickle and dime your customers to death. It's just not good business. For example, and this is just off the top of my head, I myself had that lump sum of money that I saved up to get After Effects. Buuuuut...... you guys lost my business, because I will not pay per month. Which sucks, because I had been hoping for a very long time to get AE. Thanks for messing it up for a looooooooooot of potential customers, including a long time customer of Adobe products such as myself.

Blackmagic's DaVinci Resolve 12 and Fusion 8 are already much better softwares than Adobe Premiere and After Effects. If adobe doesn't ditch this horrific plan less and less users will buy their monthly subscriptions, Adobe has made a bad move....

I just want to chime in here as well.  I love the Adobe suite of products.  I love them enough that I frequently recommend them to people... friends, family, coworkers, sometimes even strangers.  However, I myself am a hobbyist user - I'm not a professional, and I only count as a student on those occasions when I sign up for some random online course or another.  Which is to say, some months I'll use a couple of the apps nearly every day - but there are also stints where I go several months without opening even one, or may just need them to open a random project file or two for some tangential purpose.

I've been clinging to my CS5.5 license since CC arrived, hoping that eventually the kinks would get worked out and there would be some sort of subscription solution that fits me (or that Adobe would go back to offering perpetual licenses alongside the cloud subscription), but I still don't feel like it has happened.  The subscription cost for the photography suite seems reasonable, especially if you can qualify as a student, but I tend to light up a lot more of the suite in my tinkering.  So to continue using Adobe software the way I do currently, I would need the full suite.  However, I can't justify paying $40 a month every month for something I'm just doing for fun - even if I can get an edu subscription, $20 a month is a pretty hefty fee.

Here's what I think I want, assuming perpetual licenses will not be coming back.  ):  First off, I would move to CC *immediately* if I could get the full suite for $5 a month - even if it was $10 a month, I would seriously consider it.  But seeing as how that's probably not in the realm of possibility, I think a pricing tier like this would work for me (using current edu pricing as a baseline):

$5 for the first single app

$2 for each additional app after the first

$10 for the photography suite (or better yet, pick N apps, where N is the number currently in the photography suite)

$20 for the full suite

With this pricing model, I would probably find a way to move to CC.  I wouldn't be 100% happy, because I'd probably only subscribe to the apps I use most, while currently I use a lot more... but there would be enough benefits in CC to make it work.

I am not very happen about it either, I only need his every now and then, I don't want to have to pay a subscription! I may not use it for a whole month, yet still pay! Pleas adobe give us normal pay and nothing mor. Just pay a price ad then that's it

So how do I go about the one year subscription? What do I do If I need Premiere Pro + After Effects just, lets say, for three months ONLY? I don't want to pay for the whole year. Please help.

i'm against the cloud too. On adobe faq is written:

"Can I purchase a perpetual license for Creative Suite 6?

Yes, you can still buy CS6 products by contacting a regional Adobe call center, but we highly recommend Creative Cloud because it features all the latest creative software, including more than 500 features that have been added since Creative Suite 6. To purchase by phone, call 800-929108."

i called the call center, the chat, the forum and so on.... this is not serious! this is NOT true and i can't purchase my own software.

I 100% agree! Adobe should think twice about forcing longtime users to subscription. You should keep the option to own the licenses as many of us as design professionals do not want to be forced to share our work in the cloud. We should have the option to use the software and upgrade when we choose.

You will be losing a lot of customers because of this option.

You should find a better solution this year as many designers will be using other resources, which is much of your revenue.

Customer loyalty and qualify of product should be thought about at your company as whole rather than Greed on a monthly basis!

I agree. It is absolutely ridiculous and a greedy call. Let's see the truth behind why adobe does this: more money. I am a student. Even at student prices I would NEVER pay a monthly subscription for adobe products. I use photoshop CS5 maybe once or twice a month. Some months I won't use it and others I'll use it almost everyday. My work does not revolve around adobe products- therefore why should i waste money for something I won't use one month but maybe the next??

So lets see: for software that has the potential to be used for many years after its release, adobe does not make any money unless you upgrade to the newest software. So ideally, you could use Photoshop CS3 for 10 years after its release and still achieve some really amazing results and not be too "far behind the other guys" with the newest version. Adobe doesn't like this. They don't want average joe to pay every 5-10 years. They want a consistent stream of cash.

Looking at the FAQ, you also NEED INTERNET CONNECTION. Let me explain why people who say "you don't need internet connection" are incorrect. Let me quote an article published by adobe: http://www.adobe.com/inspire/2012/06/creative-cloud-answers.html.‌

• "They do not need to be online to use the products..."

BUT

• "Of course, an Internet connection is required at times to make sure their software is up-to-date and to verify their membership is active (paid for)..."

                    -Julie Campagna

So what does this mean? This means that you can only use the software if you connect to the internet at least once per month. Why? Like the above quote, Adobe needs to make sure you are legitimately using their software. It's now their property and you are renting it. You do not own the rights to it for personal use. You have the right to use it as long as you are in a contract with them. You own the files you create with the software, so rest easy. Because adobe is switching their payment system (monthly/annual charges instead of a one-time fee for physical CD or Digital Download), their servers will contact your computer and keep telling the software to function normally IF you keep paying the monthly/annual fee. Their servers will be waiting for your computer (more specifically, any adobe program you have) to contact them and ask in computer talk: "should I keep functioning normally or not?" And, no you cannot download the CC suite and rip out your ethernet card and cancel your subscription next month and still expect functionality. Nor can you add server IPs to your host file to prevent communication. Any disruption with the line of communication (either no internet or intentional tampering) will trigger the built-in safeguards.

IF you have no internet but WANT to use this draconian software, then purchase a prepaid yearly plan. That way you will only need to be in a place with internet once to download the program files and consummate the setup. If you do not have internet or easy access to internet at least once a month, DO NOT purchase the monthly plan. You have to do a prepaid option so the servers tell the program in computer talk, "function for a whole calendar year date even If we don't talk for one year from now."

So how do I feel about this change by adobe? Well, I hate it quite honestly. I hate anything cloud-based or demanding monthly payment (w/ exception to Netflix). And I hate paying for things I cannot own. If you give a company your money, are you renting it out to them or giving it to them? If the answer is the latter, then you should own what you pay for. That's my belief. Again, Netlix my personal exception. lol. I will NEVER purchase another Adobe product again. This tactic has disgusted me and as a result I will purchase Corel and be more receptive to the idea of pirating old adobe software on torrent sites. Stupid move adobe. You lost a large market of casual users and kept a smaller percentage of professional users as your customer base while promoting alternatives like piracy and competitor software.