[Locked] No perpetual licenses are you serious?

Yeah, I hate the new plan. I upgrade only when there are compelling reasons for it, it could be every two or three releases. The current price is too much. DanDanThePhotoMan (above) makes a good case for $11/month pricing, and that's only fair if you upgrade every time.

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Edit by author: Extending Dan...'s thought, it would make sense for Adobe to provide lower priced maintenance or upgrade subscriptions for people who now have perpetual license products that would be eligible for an upgrade. New users who start with Creative Cloud could pay the full $50/month to start but it would eventually revert to a lower maintenance subscription after a period of time, maybe 3 years (the equivalent of 2 upgrade cycles).

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Edit by author: Ok, I see they've got something like that for single products at https://creative.adobe.com/plans?plan=single where you can choose "CS3+purchase" and subscribe for $10/month. For how long I wonder?

We now have over 2000 signatures on the petition asking Adobe to eliminate the mandatory "creative cloud" subscription model.

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I work for a school and update the CS programs every three to four years, basically when we have money for it.  This year we have money for it and I was planning on getting CS7, upgrade from CS5.5.  I learned from our rep that we can only buy CS6 or we can rent CC for two years all for the same price.  That just makes no sense.  I can buy a two year old program suite, for a lot of money, or rent the latest version for two years.  This is for teaching high school students.  In two years I am not going to have the money to buy CC for another two years, it takes a lot of fund raising and grant writing to keep the software updated every 3-4 years.   It just amazes me they decided to go this way, it effectively forces my program to find alternatives.  Just going to stick with 5.5 for the next couple of years and find something else for video and design classes in the mean time.  Hopefully they will change this model and find better rates to charge schools, it basically came out to just under 20 bucks a seat per month.

Yep, I won't be supporting this. This is outrageous Adobe. After a few years of using CS6 there will be alternate software out there as there is now a market! A company somewhere is probably looking at the market share already and sizing up development and expansion plans. Is there a poll against this? Oh wait thats just not buying it...

The bottom line is that Adobe has 2 big problems on their hands. First, the price for Photoshop is doubling for loyal users who upgrade each time, and increasing even more for casual users. A permanent $10 per month would be fair. And that is not just a number I like. Previous upgrades average out to $11 per month ($200 upgrade / 18 month product cycle) for consistent upgraders. So, Adobe would be giving loyal users a deal to join the cloud version. And when factoring in people who upgrade infrequently, Adobe would be making MORE money than their previous upgrade model!

The second major issue: no matter how much money you have invested in Photoshop, no payments mean no using the software. How about every $200 in payments would lock you into that current version and the software would not need to phone Adobe. If you want the continued new features, then you can pay more. This would give Adobe more incentive to innovate to keep people subscribing for updates. If you stop payments after $200 and want to come back later to upgrade, you would need to pay for what you missed.

So, $10 per month for upgraders and after every $200 you lock in the current version. Problem solved (at least from my perspective!).

I am deeply disappointed in Adobe. Very disrespectful towards their customers.

wow

This change of pricing model is completely unacceptable. I've been using Photoshop for years. Until now, it has cost me $150 or so every 18 months to upgrade. With this pricing change, it will cost me $19.99 x 18 months to use Photoshop over the same period of time. That's around 2.5x as much. I'll keep using my existing version of PS as long as it works but I'll be looking for alternatives rather than be gouged by this new pricing plan.

The Fun part is that they have already made enhancements to things like Photoshop that you can only get on the cloud. Boxed software users are being screwed over already:

http://helpx.adobe.com/content/help/en/photoshop/using/whats-new.html

(From 13.1)

Notice the 'Creative Cloud Only' part.

Boxed software users are now second class citizens to Adobe, after paying out tremendous amounts of money.

We currently have 10 licenses. If i read it right, it's going to cost us 700 dollars a month to access the software. (for the first year, price is sure to go up after that..and that 'two people can share' bit doesn't apply, we use them simultaneously)

RIght now we have bean counters looking for any and every opportunity to save a buck. They look at $700 a month, $8400 a year, and then add in our hourly salaries and thing 'gee, why am I paying these folks when I can contract out to a consultant for less, and don't have to pay benefits'

This will literally get people 'downsized'.

We can justify a 'every two year software upgrade' in our capitol outlay, we can't justify monthly rental - not to mention the fact that we're tied to always paying it or we lose access to our work.

Cloud storage and collaboration is a no-go. a) we dont' collaborate, b) we're not putting our projects out on the internet where anyone, theoretically, can have access. Too much propriatary data.

We'll stick with our CS6 as long as we possibly can and look for alternatives. Surely in that time someone will come up with something comparable to cater to those that leave Adobe.