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January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.

How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots).
By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke.
Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects.
Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control.

Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices

Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.

Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr

Update (Dec 2024): With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping.

Update:

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it.

Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

The recommended order for applying edits is:

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people. There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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frans_7714

Participant

Love this enhancent. Work most of the timens OK but sometimes it leaves some content of the removed subject. It need some further improvement to make it better. But overall I'm glad with it.

johnrellis

Legend

@frans_7714: "sometimes it leaves some content of the removed subject."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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Paul26231103atwu

Participant

I believe there's a bug with the crop plus GenAI process: if you crop away obstacles but some small fragment is still visible in your image (say a piece of a lampost) then the GenAi stubbornly refuses to delete the remnant inside the crop - because it is looking OUTSIDE the crop for context. I personally don't hink it shoudl look outside the crop for context - that's why you have cropped. But even if Adobe thinks it should, then a small grey surround around the crop bar to show you where it is taking context is required. Otherwise it's mystifying and perplexing to people.

Ian Lyons

Community Expert

@Paul26231103atwu

What you see is not a bug. Crops should be applied after the Heal tool is used. To avoid what you describe and other artefacts, it is recommended that the following order is used for edits.

Denoise
Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image)
Global Edits
AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

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danidolbow_

Participant

Loving generative remove! Definitely find it doing a mostly better job than the normal remove function did before. My one complaint is the overly smooth, ai, virtual look it gives the new portion. Because of this, it tends to not do well with larger areas. Curious if it would be able to pick up on the textural quality and grain of the existing photo in order to make the result seem more realistic.

meredithh96294268

Participant

I love this! I do wish that you could sync with photographs before and remove the same object over and over. Do you think that would be possible? Thank you!

johnrellis

Legend

@meredithh96294268: " I do wish that you could sync with photographs before and remove the same object over and over."

If the object is in the location in all the photos (e.g. in a timelapse or burst), you can do Sync Settings, selecting Remove. But you'll then have to go to each photo individually, select the Remove tool, and click Update All to compute the removal for each of the target photos.

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jennifers88645732

Participant

for me, none of the remove features are working. It allows me to make the selection, but then does nothing. Even when I try to use generative. Really disappointing.

Rikk Flohr_Photography

Author

Community Manager

@jennifers88645732 Is your Opacity set to a low value?

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org

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FrayDiego

Participant

Hasta ahora funciona bien, pero aún le falta a la IA entender cuando necesito eliminar algo y cuando suplantar con otra cosa. Sigo teniendo que abrir la fotos en Ps para eliminar objetivo en algunas ocasiones.

johnrellis

Legend

@FrayDiego, "the AI still needs to figure out when I need to delete something and when to replace it with something else."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

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gordonm67764613

Participating Frequently

Delete would suggest that you want to leave an empty hole, right? That makes
little sense!

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Mael Lambla

Participant

Slow, and it need to much step to applicate the brush, and sometimes it doesn't understand that we want to remove an object.

johnrellis

Legend

@Mael Lambla: "sometimes it doesn't understand that we want to remove an object."

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

TriathlonJohn

Participant

It's stopped working for me. Was having pretty good success with it on some photos, but now the last few photos I've tried it on it spins for a while then comes back with "Generative Remove Failed. We've endountered an issue and can't complete your request at this time. Please try again later." I've, of course, restarted both Lightroom and my Macbook, but that hasn't resolved it. I am running the latest version.

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terencepang

Participant

The feature is really nice, however, sometimes, it doesn't match with the overall feeling of the pic.

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alexandre_6909

Participant

outil devenue indispensable pour la supresion d'elements indesirable , un gain de temps dans la retouche incontestable