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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

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Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

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michaelb44062193
Participant
August 6, 2024

Pour le moment l'effacement fonctionne bien et le remplacement aussi

Participant
August 5, 2024

I'm not able to remove (AI) high tension wires from the sky. Any idea why those are not recogniced.

johnrellis
Legend
August 5, 2024

@Gordon28902884axxe: "I'm not able to remove (AI) high tension wires from the sky."

 

There's a couple of possible causes of that. See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

 

Participating Frequently
August 4, 2024

since LR can show spots easily they should be able to add a feature to automatically remove the spots as well.

gary_sc
Community Expert
Community Expert
August 4, 2024

Sorry, @Dewalt0101, I'd rather be shown a possible spot and for me to remove than trust that what it shows is what I'd agree with to be removed.

 

Not all regonized spots should be removed. That's the human brain at work.

Participating Frequently
August 4, 2024

Agree I would not want to automatically remove the spots but at least select all and then give me the option review and edit the choices to remove.

 

with underwater photography we get a lot backscatter/spots which can take significant amount of effort to select one by one for removal.

Participant
August 3, 2024

I have been loving this feature in Lightroom Classic, however, randomly this week, with a new update presumably the Generative Remove feature now does not remove the object selected, it merely tries to recreate it, which is  frustrating.

johnrellis
Legend
August 3, 2024

@Tony37092199t2ye: "the Generative Remove feature now does not remove the object selected, it merely tries to recreate it"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

 

Participant
August 3, 2024

Funktioniert garsde mal eben so was von überhaupt nicht. Entfernt die markierten Linien kein bisschen. Ganz großer Murks.

 

johnrellis
Legend
August 3, 2024

@photoprosa: "It doesn't remove the marked lines at all."

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participant
August 3, 2024

I assume its probably been mentioned, but it really doesnt work well with film stocks. in particular film grain. where ever you apply it's left smoth without grain. So theres a clear line from the effect to the image. 

johnrellis
Legend
August 3, 2024

@tom38971491noxg: "it really doesnt work well with film stocks. in particular film grain."

 

There have been a number of reports about not matching sky and other uniform backgrounds but none here about grain. Please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so Adobe can see the issue in detail.

JBedfordPhoto
Inspiring
August 2, 2024

I'm guessing it's been mentioned already, but the blending between areas of subtle gradient variation is one of the tool's weaknesses. The occasionally successful workaround employs the use of the original healing brush which does a far more accurate job in blending tones.

johnrellis
Legend
August 2, 2024

@JBedfordPhoto: "blending between areas of subtle gradient variation is one of the tool's weaknesses."

 

There indeed have been a number of reports about replacements not matching the background color exactly. You can often work around that by making a much larger and/or raggedy selection around the object, e.g. 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl... 

Participating Frequently
July 31, 2024

The REMOVE tool is NOT a replacement tool
Please delete / remove selected

johnrellis
Legend
July 31, 2024

@Gerard38305403cjab: "Please delete / remove selected"

 

See this article for how to remove objects more reliably:
https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

Most complaints about Remove are addressed in the article. But if it doesn't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.

Participating Frequently
July 31, 2024

All AI functions are NOT remebered 
My computer crashed 
And after i can go further with the foto's i must restore all pictures with AI

 

Participant
July 31, 2024

Love the added feature, but it doesn't remove completely.  There's always a faint outline left before at 100% opacity.  Photoshop does a better job than lightroom.

johnrellis
Legend
July 31, 2024

@Sara38921655kblf: "There's always a faint outline left before at 100% opacity."

 

Are you applying Remove on top of a Sky mask?  If so, then do Settings > Update Ai Settings?

 

If not, then there have been some reports about replacements not matching the background color exactly. You can often work around that by making a much larger and/or raggedy selection around the object, e.g. 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-early-access-available-across-all-surfaces/m-p/14737021#M372323

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-early-access-available-across-all-surfaces/m-p/14749136#M372927 

 

If these suggestions don't help, please attach a full-resolution JPEG exported from the unmodified original photo, so we and Adobe can see the issue in detail. With nearly everyone who has posted a problem photo, we've been able to show how to quickly remove the desired objects.