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Rikk Flohr_Photography
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
June 4, 2024

Deja accro a cette fonctionnalité !!!! 

 

Participant
June 4, 2024

Hi there

In my case Generative AI doesn't work .it keep showing that message in th epicture attached since the first moment after the update .

johnrellis
Legend
June 5, 2024

@Geanina32797559qrw3, sometimes network firewalls on your computer, local network, or ISP mistakenly block LR's network requests. Try the steps described here:

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-discussions/p-new-ai-powered-generative-remove-earl...

Inspiring
June 4, 2024

I used it to try to remove a reflection of light on a shiny wooden table.  It amplified the reflection instead of removing it.

johnrellis
Legend
June 5, 2024

@Bernie33, see this article about how to get Remove to remove rather than replace (e.g. with a brighter reflection):

https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace/

 

If that doesn't help, upload the original photo to Dropbox, Google Drive, or similar and post the sharing link here. We can take a look...

Inspiring
June 6, 2024
Selecting an area larger than I had before, and going through a few
variations did create a good result. Thanks for the advice.
aprilh16061073
Participant
June 3, 2024

Thanks for the new feature but the old feature is now broken.  The bandaid does not allow you to move the copy this buble.  When you hover over it the curser never changes so it just cretes a new bandate spot instead of allowing you to move it to a better location.

 

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 3, 2024

@aprilh16061073 

 

Please below linked thread in Bug forum as it may be the same issue as you're seeing.

 

https://community.adobe.com/t5/lightroom-classic-bugs/p-remove-tool-clone-and-heal-is-missing-source-handle/idi-p/14635600

Participant
June 3, 2024

Great start! For the most part, it does beautifully. I have found it do not do well with depth of field...ie: sharp images against blurry. Secondly, if I make a virtual copy, it does not always transfer. Sometimes it does and sometimes it doesn't. This is annoying when dealing with massive amounts of photos and batch editing (as from a wedding). Lastly, if something is along the edge, even with subtract, it replaces the image with something similar. 

Participant
June 3, 2024

Au lieu de supprimer des objets non désirés (exemple, des baingeurs dans l'eau de mer que l'on souhaite effacer), la supression générative remplace le sujet par autre chose... 

Pas de différence quand on coche "basé sur l'objet"...

donc Pas bien convaincu pour le moment...

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 3, 2024

You need to ensure that all shadows, reflections and projections are selected/masked.

 

These tips from the post at top of thread should help.

 

Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item
Participant
June 3, 2024

Every single time I use it, the 'Brush Size' decreases by 1 point and deselects the heal it just performed. Incredibly frustrating. When zooming in and out the brush doesn't scale with the image. Stop launching in Beta. Make sure it works before forcing users' hands into using it. I wish there was an 'Opt Out' option. The CA Fill is good, but the tool is buggy beyond belief. A travesty to use.

Participant
June 3, 2024

It will show the circle indicating a certain brush size but when I click to use the tool, the brush size it actually uses is significantly smaller than what the 'preview' circle indicated. When I try to use the scroll wheel to increase the size, it will decrease in size several steps before starting to go back up in size. Sometimes when I click to use it, the program stalls and I'm stuck staring at my screen for about 5-10 seconds waiting for the program to register that I've clicked the mouse. Pay your developers to do this testing work instead of forcing your paying uses to do your RND. If you're going to take my money, give me a program that works. That's what I'm paying you for.

Participant
June 3, 2024

I'm always receiving "some AI masks need updating" message even when I hit "update all" button on Mask panel from develop tab. This issue came after update adobe lightroom classic to Version 13.3. I also tried to do that on library tab by accessing Photo > Develop Settings > Update AI Settings, but this also failed. How can I fix that?

Participant
June 3, 2024

First effort terrible result - the person I was trying to delete became "see thru"!

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
June 3, 2024

@Barbara34538832bc4s 

 

What you describe occurs when you've applied a Generative AI selection/mask to a image that has an AI Mask applied. In this instance, there will be a red dot below the Masks icon on the toolbar. You can fix the issue by choosing 'Update Ai Masks' in Develop module 'Settings' menu or within the Mask panel itself.

 

Participant
June 3, 2024

Hi, Barbara.
Thanks a lot for your reply.
I'll need to do that individually for all my library photos that shows this warning? As I said before, I tried to do that in library tab, by selecting all photos from my library, but it doesn't work. I'm very concerned about this issue because it's reducing my productivity in a huge maner. This problem is delaying the delivery of several works that I was already finishing before this product version update. 

Kind regards,

Aline Cristofaro.

Participant
June 3, 2024

Worked beautifully on two fairly complicated removes against a blurred BG and overlapping a bright blue Stellars Jay.