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Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
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January 22, 2023
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P: New AI-powered Generative Remove (Early Access) available across all surfaces.

  • January 22, 2023
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This post applies to Lightroom Classic and the Lightroom Ecosystem products.
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The Lightroom team is sharing an early look at Generative Remove, which makes it easier to remove unwanted objects and distractions, even on complex backgrounds, with a simple brush stroke. Generative Remove is powered by Firefly AI.
 
How to use Generative Remove on a desktop:

  • You can find Generative Remove under the newly renamed Remove panel (aka “Heal”).
  • Make sure the “generative AI” checkbox is enabled before you start brushing (note: when unchecked, Lightroom will use Content-Aware Remove to fill your brushed spots). 
  • By default, you will be given a moment to refine your selection with an add or subtract brush. Remember to include shadows for a more accurate result! You can also skip this step by holding down ‘CTRL’ on windows or ‘CMD’ on mac as you finish your brush stroke. 
  • Once you’re ready to apply and have accepted the terms, Generative Remove will use Firefly AI to remove your distractions and intelligently fill in the space that’s left by the removed objects. 
  • Note: stable internet connection is required to use this feature.
  • Generative Remove also lets you choose from multiple variations, so you can pick the one you like best, giving you full creative control. 

    Checkout the FAQ and Best Practices
 
Please give it a try and share feedback and/or report variations in this community forum. It would greatly help to include details like which app you are using (i.e., Lightroom Classic or Camera Raw) and other system details. Our team will continually monitor this thread to track issues to improve the future experience.
 
Lisa Ngo: Lightroom Product Manager
Posted by: Rikk Flohr 

Update (Dec 2024):  With the new release, it is no longer necessary to perform Generative Remove Operations prior to Cropping. 

Update:
Here are some tips if you are having issues with the feature replacing your object instead of removing it. 
  • Enlarge your selection - if your brush stroke is too tight, you will have unexpected results.
  • Remember that removing an object means painting over it, its shadow, its reflection, and any non-contiguous pieces. If you leave behind a shadow, a reflection, or a disconnected piece (e.g., a hand on a shoulder), the AI will attempt to create something to cast the shadow, reflect, or complete the unbrushed discontinuous item. You can avoid these issues by following the guidance provided in this linked tutorial. https://www.lightroomqueen.com/generative-remove-replace

 

The recommended order for applying edits is:

 

  1. Denoise 
  2. Heal (includes Generative AI Remove)
  3. Crop (includes traditional Cropping, Lens Correction, Transform, or any operation changing the geometry of the image, including round-tripping to PS to use Gen-Expand)
  4. Global Edits
  5. AI Selective edits (Sky, Person, etc)

    If you deviate from that, you may see the removed object remain as a ghost image. If this occurs, you will have to use Update AI Settings, which can be found under the Develop module 'Settings' menu.

 

Correct answer daleducatte

Hi, I'm getting the same error messages, as are some other people.  There's a recent post on Reddit from an Adobe employee that Adobe is aware of the problem and is working on it. See here:

 

https://www.reddit.com/r/Lightroom/comments/1fka2el/suddenly_unable_to_use_the_remove_tool_due_to/

894 replies

Participant
May 26, 2024

Wow! I'm really impressed.

I wanted to remove this part of a 'post'? From a picture from the Aya Sofia.

It really did an incredible thing, It even knew there was chandelier hanging behind it.

I don't mind, that a person was generated in it's place.

 

Inspiring
May 26, 2024

Hi, started using  generative remove a few days ago and the results were terrible! The problem seems to be the images had AI Denoise applied to them, hence they were in the .dng format. Tried on normal raw files, with no adjustments, and it worked fine.

Ian Lyons
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 26, 2024

The order edits should be applied is: Denoise - Heal (Including Gen Remove) - Crop/Edit - AI Selective edits

Rikk Flohr_Photography
Community Manager
Community Manager
May 26, 2024
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The order edits should be applied is: Denoise - Heal (Including Gen Remove) - Crop/Edit - AI Selective edits


By @Ian Lyons


If you want to avoid trouble...

Rikk Flohr: Adobe Photography Org
Califdan2
Inspiring
May 26, 2024

PROBLEM:

When using the LrC/13.3 Generative Remove tool,  it removes the thing painted over and replaces it with something else.  The problem is that in most representational photography, when you want something removed,  like a tourist or trash can, you want it replaced with background similar to its surrounding rather than having it replaced with a different tourist or trash can.    Heal, Clone and Content Aware remove can many times do this but without the AI component many times one just can't find a source area that works.

 

PROPOSAL

In the Remove mode of the Remove tool,  add two sub  obtions:

  1. Generative Replace AI -  If selected this option would replace the painted object with some other AI generated object.  For example a different cat or different tourist
  2. Generative Fill AI - If selected this option would remove the painted over object and fill in that area with AI generated background similar to the area surrounding the removed thing.   
D Fosse
Community Expert
Community Expert
May 26, 2024

<nevermind - wrong forum>

Wurstkrapfen
Inspiring
May 26, 2024

How are you handling the transfer to the highres source image if I use GenAI on a smartpreview on a mobile device?

 

  • Will LRC re-render it with the same seed in a higher resolution?
  • Do I have to manually tell it to re-render it?
  • Will a  Gen-AI fill on a Smartpreview result in a lower res fill compared to if I do it on the full file?
Rural Route 1
Participant
May 26, 2024

So far I really like the addition of the AI tool.  What I've found annoying is using it to remove smaller areas the AI suggestion is obscured by the eraser icon so you can even see what the AI is suggesting.  If while the area is active if the eraser icon could be disabled or appear outside the selected area that would help with picking which one of the initial three suggestions works best of if a regeneration needs to be requested.

Known Participant
May 26, 2024

Rather than read through 18 pages of feedback to see what ones are similar to mine I'm just going to list my feedback here:

1) This really needs a lasso tool or something similar.

2) It needs feathering to reduce the hard edges that can result.

3) It would benefit immensely from being linked to masking--mask an object you want to remove.  The object selection seems to be based on something totally different than the one in the masking tools and its worse. 

 

It seems odd to me that its being implemented so differently than the same feature in Photoshop, which works extremely well and is well-designed. Its a good start but the implementation would benefit tremendously from a more user-friendly implementation. 

Participant
May 26, 2024

I have a particular image whereby instead of removing the selected objets it replaces them with something different. I have the correct settings as when I choose an alternative image the object is removed not replaced.

Participant
May 26, 2024

Hi
Just here to say : Amazing!
it was nice before, with the "local" remove, but it has not taken a cord out of adress like it was never there, truly good,

Thanks!

Participating Frequently
May 26, 2024

Sadly more often than not it gives me results that are almost identical to what I was trying to remove for example a long piece of fence post replaced with the same! Popped it into Ps and got rid of it first time!

Participant
May 26, 2024

生成削除は、ぼやけたオブジェクトを削除しても消えないです。